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"It has been dubbed Britain's 'most woke' roundabout because drivers must give priority to pedestrians, then cyclists, and then other cars and lorries before continuing on themselves. Locals have pointed out the priority for cyclists and pedestrians is unnecessary as only cars and lorries regularly use the Boundary Way route."

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[–] cynar@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (15 children)

My issue with this roundabout is that it's the worst of all worlds. It's unusual, and complex for cars. Given how bad the average driver is, I wouldn't want to be a cyclist or pedestrian dealing with this.

While it has its problems, Milton Keynes does non-car traffic quite well. It has "red ways" that cut under or over the main trunk roads. It's possible to reach most of the city without having to cross a major road.

While retrofitting this is harder, surely they could come up with something better, for that sort of money.

Oh and as for the woke comments. I've found describing it/replacing it with empathy/empathetic works well. It seems to really annoy the gammon crowd, while turning those on the fence away from it, hard.

[–] angelmountain 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just copy Dutch roundabout design, they work great for both car drivers as well as other road users. Not complicated at all when copied properly.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

We have plenty of variants of roundabouts here too. Many would work far better. They just seem to have combined 3 good elements in a way that they all disrupt each other in practice.

Cars need to watch for cyclists doing an unusual manoeuvre., as well as other cars reacting abruptly and unpredictability.

Cyclists can't trust their right of way due to idiot drivers.

Pedestrians will get lost behind the clutter of the cycle path and are at risk of being run down.

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