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[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago (14 children)

To be clear, to be a true analog the province needs to be an ethnic minority which is being targeted by the national government.

Say Alberta was the only majority English speaking province, and Ottawa started putting up statues of a Quebecois terrorist leader from 80 years ago who lead the massacre of 100k English speakers and allied with Hitler during WW2, then they announced that English would be banned from all government facilities including primary schools, and when Alberta tried to secede they sent Nazi paramilitary death squads to harass them and started bombing them daily.

At that point, if the US interceded and went past the Albertan border to attack other military targets in Canada, you would consider that a war of aggression by America against Canada and not them defending their ally, Alberta?

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (13 children)

At that point, if the US interceded and went past the Albertan border to attack other military targets in Canada, you would consider that a war of aggression by America against Canada and not them defending their ally, Alberta?

If America's massacring civilians in Ottawa and Toronto? Yes, of course I would. Any sane person would. Stay in Alberta.

You people call yourselves anti-war? I think you're the real liberals here.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (12 children)

What number of civilians have to die before your defensive war is an unacceptable war of aggression now?

Did the Allied counter offensive against the Nazis come in below that number? How about the Union during the US civil war?

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You people are pro-war whenever it's convenient for you I guess. Those comparisons are out of line and clearly different as I already explained.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sounds like you're the one who's pro-war whenever it's convenient for you. When it's not convenient, you just say "that's different!" And refuse to elaborate.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

So you support America invading the Middle East when a hostile government oppresses separatists that ally themselves with the US there?

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because it's exactly like what Russia is doing in Ukraine.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So what makes it different that you can support Russia's brutal invasion?

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago

How did Russia invade the Donbas by putting troops in it after being invited? Please admit that the answer is that you actually believe the Donbas is Ukraine and don't care about its people's self determination so I can quit asking you this question that you have been dodging for like an hour now.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You are bad faith, intellectually dishonest people.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Speak for yourself, you are the one trying to put words in my mouth.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Oml SHUT UPPPPPPPPPPP

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