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Google's AI now listens to your English language phone conversations (security.googleblog.com)
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More than half of Americans reported receiving at least one scam call per day in 2024. To combat the rise of sophisticated conversational scams that deceive victims over the course of a phone call, we introduced Scam Detection late last year to U.S.-based English-speaking Phone by Google public beta users on Pixel phones.

We use AI models processed on-device to analyze conversations in real-time and warn users of potential scams. If a caller, for example, tries to get you to provide payment via gift cards to complete a delivery, Scam Detection will alert you through audio and haptic notifications and display a warning on your phone that the call may be a scam.

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[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 158 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

No, no, Fuck You, no!!

I will have no phone that employs "Counterfeit Conciousness" to listen to every fucking word of every fucking conversation leading to (among others):

  • Further training
  • Data retention of complete call content somewhere (waiting to be hacked)
  • Possible reports to LEO (or worse)
  • ...whatever else I can't think of just now...

Fuck right off with this.

This solidifies for me I will never own a Pixel phone.

And, if this becomes ubiquitous in Android, I'll have to rethink that, too.

Doesn't mean I'll necessarily go to iOS; more likely completely rethink having a phone at all.

Fuck Google entirely. Don't be Evil my ass.

πŸ™„ 🀑 πŸ–• πŸ–•

[–] shekau@lemmy.today 5 points 12 hours ago

Pixel is the only device that is supported by GrapheneOS (sadly), so you can own Pixel just for installing grapheneOS on it.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This solidifies for me I will never own a Pixel phone.

Sounds like a pixel phone is exactly what u want just u want GrapheneOS on it.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

So, it's on device, which negates many of the above worries. Does that change things? I'm all good with private AI, personally. Slippery slope and all, though...

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Additionally, just fucking stop scammers from using fucking gift cards.

Surely it's not that hard to detect that a gift card sold in Australia is being activated in Russia.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The gift card people have absolutely no motivation to fix this problem. They are making bank.

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 10 points 20 hours ago

They need to be given motivation, through legal obligation.

[–] vivendi@programming.dev 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

We got baited by piece of shit journos

It's a local model. It doesn't send data over.

If they want call data they can buy it straight from service providers anyway

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

We got baited by piece of shit journos

It's an official announcement written by Google.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Fuck Android. Run Calyx or Graphene. it's not difficult for any PC enthusiast.

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

unfortunately both of those have a very small list of supported devices.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

This ☝️, which nobody tells you, and then about 20 other things nobody tells you except that one Indian vlogger who installs everything on everything.

TL;DW - if you have a relatively recent Pixel, you’re probably good. Everything else, get out the forum posts, an old POS windows box you don’t mind trashing and start finding out what doesn’t work. You might get some Samsung to mostly work ok.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Which include pixels

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

yeah, it's all about individual priorities

[–] Goretantath@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can't back up everything on my phone without root and cant root without wiping the phone so..

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

How have you managed to save things on your phone you cannot back up without root?

You're just straight fucked if this is true. Don't save permanent things to your phone. Your phone is transient. Phones are not permanent.

edit: so the "phone shit is permanent" crew came out early on this one? Bruh, your phone can be taken from you in an instant. It's transient.

[–] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world -4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Still based on garbage android. Android is just shit pilled on shit.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 13 hours ago

Linux can't manage the cellphone blobs yet. I'll be using linux on a phone when it works well.

[–] UnderFreyja@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

I mean, I would own a pixel phone.... with linux on it....

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 4 points 23 hours ago

Counterfeit consciousness

I like that

[–] bob_omb_battlefield@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Since it's processed on device they don't (necessarily) need to transmit and store your conversations in some central location. I guess theoretically this could be done in a secure way.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago

Doesn't mean I'll necessarily go to iOS; more likely completely rethink having a phone at all.

Man cuts off nose to spite face; news at 11