cross-posted from: https://metawire.eu/post/61363

The right-wing billionaire’s platform has recently lost about 10 percent of its European user base.

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[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Have you been to Europe? They have “walking” cities. You really don’t need a car to get around. My kids backpacked through Europe. The furthest they had to travel from a hostel was outside Amsterdam. 8 km on bicycles! My son just came back from Japan (I know, not Europe). He talked a lot about the “Shinkansen”. A high speed train that travels 280 km/h. They were able to travel all over Japan “without” a car.

[–] Ronno 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a Dutchman, I agree we have great infrastructure and "walking" cities. But you've only seen Amsterdam. Outside of the cities, The Netherlands is more dependent on cars than you might think. I live on the border of the country and public transport is basically non existent and cycling is not viable due to travel distances, every adult has a car in my area. A family of 4 adults (children over 18 living at home) have 4 cars parked in front of their house here. We're not as car dependent as the US, but we don't live in a fairytale either.

[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Thank you for the insight. I always appreciate being educated :).

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Try to go to an anti-genocide protest in EU and see how fast you get violently beat up, arrested or get cops at your door to have "a chat". All tose things in Amsterdam you mentioned too.

[–] bufalo1973@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago

Spain is part of the EU and nobody is "violently beat up", arrested or having a visit from the cops for going to an anti-genocide protest.

[–] DimlyLitFlutteringMoth@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Still not happened to me yet, and that is in the UK which has the far more authoritarian Policing Bill looming over us. That doesn't make as interesting a soundbite though.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your individual experiences don't negate all the things I mentioned, they are on video.
And whatever bill you're under doesn't matter to other countries, they always find a reason or 'special circumstances' to break their own laws and act like hired goons for the zionist apartheid state.

[–] DimlyLitFlutteringMoth@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, Israel is shit, but unless you have a video for each of these protests being shut down in this way, that just isn't the norm. Plenty of pro-Palestine protests and meetings here; outside Barclays, protesting specific businesses, sharing information in our most popular streets for tourism and shopping, musical protests at art galleries. Plenty going on, never even seen a police presence at these.

Not to say it isn't happening, but trying to paint Europe as some pro-Zionist totality is weird.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

you're a hasbara liar plain and simple

[–] DimlyLitFlutteringMoth@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Not sure how talking about local and country-wide support for Palestine, and against the zionist genocide enacted by Israel, makes me supportive of Israel but everyone is entitled to their opinion.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You are whitewashing the EU and UK complicit regimes that do everything to stifle protest.
Nothing is more obvious and blatant.
There is no conceivable reason to do that unless you have an agenda.
You can play dumb, that's another typical hasbara tactic.

[–] DimlyLitFlutteringMoth@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Just stating how it is. There is so much, rightful, support for Palestine here and it isn't being suppressed.

Does the UK and Europe suppress protests? Absolutely. Look at what has happened with climate focused organisations. Look at what has happened with trans rights.

But, thankfully, that isn't happening for Palestinian causes and even the explicitly anti-Israel protests against council use of Neptune Intelligence Computer Engineering go ahead without issue.

[–] DimlyLitFlutteringMoth@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 hours ago

But, if you feel the need to make up little conspiracies about everyone being hasbara, I'll wish you well and move on with my day.