DISCLAIMER: this is not my content that was removed, I just came across it in the modlog and found it to be absurd. If it’s not allowed, I totally understand.
Reason removed was because it’s unrelated.
Unrelated…..
The guy was illegally deported without due process. And yet for some reason, suggesting so is somehow “unrelated” to a meme that is trying to say that because he is affiliated (no charges were ever filed against him for gang-related activity) with a gang, he is by default, guilty.
What’s ironic, is that the entire point of the meme is that the bullshit about him being in MS-13 is unrelated to the fact that people want accountability for this administration illegally deporting a man without due process.
This mod has definitely chosen the correct name.
And even taken into consideration that the instance is essentially a troll haven for wayward 4Chan refugees, they should still have to adhere to the rules of common sense.
can you provide a source for the affiliation?
Here is the best I can find as all sources I can see pretty much say the same on the subject. It’s not concrete, it’s the closest thing I can find that warrants any real possibility.
However, it should be noted that even if it were true- affiliation doesn’t mean jack shit if he never committed any crimes.
thanks for the link, I've read his report.
there is zero documented evidence even of gang affiliation, according to that FBI report.
that is very important to note.
clean record, no documented gang affiliation, wearing a hoodie, one CI allegedly said he has a nickname with no corroborating evidence.
his gang affiliation would mean something if he had a gang affiliation, which he does not.
it's only harmful to bring up an alleged affiliation when one does not exist.
That’s what I’m saying. I’m speaking from the perspective of those accusing. They are working from that info- which is irrelevant as it doesn’t really say anything other than he was accused.
I’ve been able to find nothing that states evidence has been provided.
And it should be pointed out that even if he did have MS-13 connections, he still is deserved due process and a trial- so their argument is further invalidated.
I don't think anybody's arguing about the necesiity of due process here, what with it being the point of the post. not from the comments I read, anyway.
It's irresponsible to say "i think i read that he does have affiliation" when there is no documented evidence.
there's a big difference between a proven gang member and a random person wearing a hoodie, and your statement blurs those lines.
I mis-spoke where I intended to say I read they’re saying he has affiliation. (My ADHD infused brain moves so much faster than I can type)
I totally get where you’re coming from and agree wholeheartedly. I’ll leave the error up and just make an edit, so this discussion makes more sense.
I appreciate it.
there's so much "I think I heard" in official White House press announcements and law enforcement documents that I feel like it's important to be as responsible as possible without our words.
Oh absolutely! I totally get that. Thanks for pointing this out. More people need to be on their toes nowadays, so I appreciate it.
I'm hopping in to say that wikipedia lays out an excellent timeline (that indicates there's no MS-13 connection) and I've been linking people to that whenever they seem to get confused about this potential affiliation.
Just in case that information might help you moving forward.