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[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 35 points 4 days ago (8 children)

China scientists

So, Chinese scientists?

[–] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

(acts confused in French)

[–] Mooseford@lemmy.today 19 points 4 days ago

No they are people who study the China Science.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think it's a slightly different connotation. "China scientists" infers scientists residing in China while not presuming their ethnicity, while "Chinese scientists" implies their ethnicity but not their location.

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You literally never hear "America scientists" even if some of them might be from another country. Same with every single other country I can think of, except China.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago

US scientists works in the same way.

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Probably because is an ethnicity and nationality. There are ethnic Chinese people all over the world and a few countries and regions are made of a majority of ethnic Chinese but are not related to China. Calling them the same thing is playing into the PRC's "all ethnic Chinese pledge their allegiance to China" nonsense.

[–] Netux@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Isreal like that game of pretend. They believe anti zionist Jews are traitors.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Isn't that true for every (older) country though?

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Perhaps but I haven't encountered that myself. I'm ethnic Chinese that's a citizen of another ethnic Chinese majority nation so I've encountered this specific type a lot more.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's a reasonable assumption that someone in China is Chinese.

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

The reverse, however, isn't true. It may be somewhat understandable but not entirely reasonable to assume someone who is Chinese is from China which is what I'm trying to say.

[–] liquidparasyte@pawb.social 10 points 4 days ago

Real talk, why is discussion around people and subjects in China so fucking weird?

If it's not referring to the entire population when it only applies to the government or a subset of them as a global "the Chinese" or doing silly shit like "China scientists" everyone's grammatical skills suddenly tank when even broaching a topic even tangential to the PRC.

[–] Etienne_Dahu@jlai.lu 8 points 4 days ago

No, it's people who study fine tableware.

[–] DasSkelett@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Seriously, for me a "China scientist" is someone doing research on China, like a space scientist would do research on astronomy and similar. But I'm not a native English speaker, so, idk

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Someone doing research on China is a chiologist.

Same as someone doing research on biology is a biologist.

[–] hazl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago

Biology -> biolog -> biologist

China -> chin -> chinist?

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

The wording of the headline would be different if it were trying to convey that.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] muhyb@programming.dev 3 points 4 days ago