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[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Eugenics is about producing the best GENES possible

"Eugenics" was a term decades before "genes"

Even if the etymology was different, you'd still be very wrong [about what "eugenics" is]

[–] Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Eugenics is the action of preventing it. Saying someone shouldn’t isn’t advocating for its forceful eugenics.

[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

I'm not saying that discouraging reproduction is eugenics. I'm saying that @Aitherios@lemmy.ml's attempt at defining Eugenics is wrong. Saying it's about producing the best "GENES" possible is just post-hoc reasoning to make it sounds more scientific.

Eugenics is based on 19th century racial science. If someone is advocating for any sort of population control that uses that framework (of bettering the "race"), they're doing eugenics.

A good example of what's not eugenics is China's one-child policy. It wasn't aimed at creating a "better" race of any kind, and It actually provided exemptions for ethnic minorities. The goal wasn't to create a better type of human race, it was to prevent the population from growing faster that what the economy could support. IMO it was probably unnecessary, but definitely wasn't eugenics.

However, if there was an alternate reality where china instituted the one-child policy only for ethnic minorities in an effort to make the nation a pure Han state, that would be eugenics. If they did it based on IQ, that would be eugenics. And if they exempted minorities from the policy out of a belief that the Han were inferior, that would also be genetics