That little waif that got stabbed a dozen times in the gut then thrown off a bridge into sewage water… and lived… then became the one who killed the series big bad with extremely limited on screen training time, without using her signature face changing ability she learned from her assassins guild?

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

To me Bronn was always the worst offender. He was pretty much just a dude, then they realised people like him or his actor so he almost became a main character. It felt like a sitcom at that point. Or Jamie, surviving his hand getting cut off i. The worst conditions ever... Okay i guess. But when he then fell into the lake with full armour and a bronze hand... Of course sidekick Bronn had nothing better to do than watch him and pull him out. Fuck, i just remember how aweful that show got by season 5 or 6. I still can't believe they were noth of the wall stuck on that lake and were like: you are a fast runner, right? You go and get help, we chill here.

[–] AZERTY 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tbf, and I'd never defend the show after that finale, iirc Bronn was watching Jamie charge at Dianarys and her dragon and as Drogon began to charge up his fire breath Bronn tackled Jamie into the lake to save him. Still shit writing but it makes slightly more sense.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't you see his pov where he goes down into the lake and he's already like a few meters under water for dramatic effect. And in the next episode he just pulls his arm out?

[–] AZERTY 3 points 1 week ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSf5K-GT3Oc

It starts at about 4:00. It makes zero sense that the water is that deep btw but maybe it's just me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk5yIVomPWI

He doesn't even pull the arm out he's just magically saved from the meters deep water in the next opening...

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Bronn wasn't featured as prominently in the books and only continued because of the show but..

Or Jamie, surviving his hand getting cut off i. The worst conditions ever...

This happened in the books a decade before the show even came out. Also, amputations really aren't that rare in history, and Jamie had a Maester to tend him, a Maester who by all accounts pretty much knows some necromancy basically. It isa fantasy series, I might remind you, and this medical procedure — which one might survive in real life as well — is tended to by essentially a member of the closest thing to wizards there is (as in wise men who hold all the books relating to magic, even if the magic has "gone out of the world" .)

The show got shit at s6 because they ran out of books. Even before that there was a bit of divergence, but it was very clear that it went to shit after they ran out of material, despite working with GRRM and knowing "the large strokes". Hell I know the "large strokes" of lots of stories well that doesn't mean I think I could write a show about them.

I still can't believe they were noth of the wall stuck on that lake and were like: you are a fast runner, right? You go and get help, we chill here.

Shit I didn't even remember that. I mean I guess George would be able to write in a battle that lasts a few days while a runner goes for help, much like the original Marathon, but in the show that seemed just really silly the way it was portrayed.

Ironically the whole saga began because George was tired of producers always fucking up this shows by making grand battles duels and whatnot, so he decided to write a show that could "never be adapted for TV."

Well gz, George, you did it. Unfortunately the poor reception of the mangled show meant that George has been avoiding finishing the series, because he's afraid the books will have poor reception as well, not realising that the people who actually have bothered to read the books aren't the usually the most vocal about how garbage the story is. Perhaps vocal about how shit the show was yes, but not of the quality of the story.

Preston Jacobs is essentially writing a fanfic version of how he'd continue it. A very popular GoT youtuber.

I hope George finishes the story. In the books the last time we saw Jon Snow was when he was getting stabbed over and over and over. It was like 2012-2013 I think, I was reading the books in our smoking room at work on the night shift. "Sure George had been killing main characters but surely Jon Snow is the main character and George wouldn't... oh no... what are you... noooooooooo!"

And I'm still waiting for that feeling to be resolved. What happens next?

[–] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 3 points 1 week ago

Yep, the waif who was wandering round in broad daylight despite knowing assassins were trying to kill her. And yet was surprised when she got stabbed