Lemmy, where I just posted in !privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com that German police pulled over the bus I was on to demand everyone’s papers after crossing a Schengen border -- was just removed by the moderator.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

The post was removed because it was a post saying "the gestapo is back" with no backing, and it doesn't seem to related to privacy. And "germany is no longer in schengen"? Yes it is, i'm not sure what you're talking about.

[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 5 points 18 hours ago

Okay, that changes everything and it looks like he/she/they werent telling the full story.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

do you happen to have a photo of the incident? i would be curious

i have been ID checked before when travelling from italy to austria by train. As i'm 20-30 year old and was travelling alone, i suspect it was about curbing migration or sth. But they didn't register it in a database.

[–] notastatist@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I understand your point, but why post it in a privacy sub?

[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I was going to say that too. Doesn't seem like the right place to post it.

[–] synesthesia@thebrainbin.org -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am seriously baffled… that 2 people would think an unwarranted general demand for ID papers without probable cause and then recording the data in a centralised tracking database is not relevant to privacy. How on earth do you arrive at that?

Is it that you don’t care about being physically tracked yourself, and from there conclude it’s not a privacy issue? Do you have something like Snapchat broadcasting your realtime physical location anyway?

I must say it’s alarming how the basic concepts of privacy has gotten lost on the younger generations to such extent. The modern day global concept of privacy is to a very large extent driven by papers being demanded in Germany in the 1940s. If it were not for 1940s Germany, privacy communities in Lemmy very well might not even exist today.

[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Getting ID'd when passing a border is not a privacy issue. You are trippin.

Also legally speaking, they cant just track you. What they are doing is just registering your entrance to the country on a central databank.

[–] synesthesia@thebrainbin.org 0 points 1 day ago

How could this possibly be unrelated to privacy?

They were not just looking at IDs to look for Turks (which IIRC is the reason they are doing it).. they were scanning everyone’s ID into a centralised system to generally track people’s movement -- even IDs issued by neighboring countries.

Privacy is about control. In this case, the privacy invasion reduces freedom of movement (control over your own travel).