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Accidental self-own admitting to everyone you haven’t been paying attention to the EU’s aggressive software backdoor agenda.
If you don’t have privacy from the government, you don’t have privacy.
Can you point to a specific law that the EU has passed in this direction?
Cos according to the article all attempts to pass something like this that have been presented in the EU have been blocked. By the EU.
An alternative title could have been: "EU Possibly The Only One Who Has Been Explicitly Rejecting Backdoor Mandates Until Now"
Sure, proposals keep being presented.. but I feel it's kind of a bit early to call the EU "greatest threat" just because yet another attempt has been made. Specially when you compare it with many other places where they apply things like this without batting an eye.
I'm not saying we (Europeans) shouldn't push (yet again) to make sure this also fails... but the title of the article is a bit misplaced, and after a history of successful rejections I feel a lot more optimistic.
Privacy refers to more than just privacy regarding the government.
Your threat model and situation might mean that if the government knows something, its as bad as if every single person knows it.
But this isn't for everyone.
If you are a human being living under the control of a government, the government is absolutely a threat to you.
Yes, in an dictatorship where the gov have always access to your data and activity, but in the EU they need for it an court order to access the data from an individual. Meanwhile US companies like Google, are even reading your mail.
I don't see how this supports your previous claim of: "If you don’t have privacy from the government, you don’t have privacy."