The world owes Stalin and the people of the USSR a debt that can never be repaid for being the only country to try to stop Nazi Germany before the war and the country which bore the brunt of the casualties and hardship.

Any "socialist" who shit talks them is suspicious as fuck in my book, chauvinist at the very best and probably a snitch.

Khrushchev was an opportunist piece of shit and the world would have been better if he had been kicked out of the party.

[–] menemen@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 days ago

The soviets saved the world, but Stalin was a monster ntl.

[+] eistari@lemmy.world -12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're joking, right? Never heard of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact? Funny fact: all anti-fascist literature was removed from libraries along with general line of censorship to praise nazis after the pact.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

The non-aggression pact that was signed well after Nazi germany had signed pacts with Britain and France? The one that was signed after Stalin's pleas for an alliance against Hitler's Germany fell on deaf ears because Western powers were still dreaming that Germany would attack the USSR first and succeed where they'd failed immediately after the 1917 revolution? That one?

Historically illiterate westerners read a single fucking line and memorize it and think that's an earth-shattering gotcha like we haven't seen your cookie cutter shit a hundred times. Serious socialists who actually read history can contextualize history, and I'll repeat it: fuck anyone who diminishes the sacrifices of the Soviet Union against the Nazi tide, it's barely notch above outright holocaust denial.

all anti-fascist literature was removed from libraries along with general line of censorship to praise nazis after the pact.

Back up your claims with a serious source. I'm sure such a comically extraordinary claim will have hard evidence behind it and not just a vibe.

[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 day ago

A user just moved the goalpost to the time when the U.S.S.R. traded some raw materials in exchange for firearms and other machinery (which it later used to help defeat the Axis). One can imagine another counterarguing that this credit deal hardly enabled the Third Reich’s bellicism; that, if anything, it likely only lead to the Axis’s defeat as it allowed the Soviets to prepare for the armed conflict. Ask yourself if that sounds identical to the liberal bourgeoisie’s appeasement.

The Third Reich’s trade with the Kingdom of Romania between January and November 1940 surpassed its trade with the Soviet Union. I would be surprised if the Soviets did indeed deliver ‘about 75%’ of the Third Reich’s imports: only 34% of the Third Reich’s oil came from the Soviet Union; it looks like the Kingdom of Romania was a much more important source of Fascism’s black gold.

The non-aggression pact that was signed well after Nazi germany had signed pacts with Britain and France?

While not directly related to the pacts, the British Empire exported significant quantities of scrap to the Third Reich. In fact, the British Empire served as the Third Reich’s primary source of imported raw materials in the 1930s. I cannot say much about pre-1940 France’s economic relations with the Third Reich, but you sparked my curiosity on that subject.

fuck anyone who diminishes the sacrifices of the Soviet Union against the Nazi tide, it’s barely notch above outright holocaust denial.

Added to this, 75.3% of Europe’s Jewish refugees found refuge in the Soviet Union during World War II, Lithuanian Jews welcomed the Red Army in 1940, which had the highest number of Jews of all the Allied armies, and (my favourite) Soviet policies lead Transnistrians to resist antisemitism, even during Axis occupation.