Why are you being so overtly defensive of a group of politicians who will band together to help out mask off fascists while also throwing out this meager theater? 9 dems crossed the isle to make the budget happen.

And as was pointed out elsewhere in this thread,

If the Dems were serious on gridlocking the Senate they should not be providing unanimous consent on things like adjourning and all the other procedural points of order

[–] ScrewCapital@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

First of all, defensive of the party vs defensive of this one action are not the same thing.

The fact that the Dems are generally fascist is why this action makes more sense than a legitimate filibuster which would be voted down by Democrats siding with the Republicans.

I'm being defensive of this specific political action because, at this moment in time, anti fascist actions by liberals is all we're going to get.

If you think that suddenly the Democrats in power will become legitimate leftists overnight you're delusional, this singular action occurring I will defend because he's successfully stalling the procedure in the Senate. I also hope other liberals will throw off their fascist tendencies and start to do the same.

But if you want to just sit there and wish really hard that they all become awakened to the cause tomorrow go ahead and live in your fantasy land.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think I'm the one living off fantasy, considering I'm not the one saying 'why are we hating on this action that is accomplishing literally nothing' and 'I also hope other liberals will throw off their fascist tendencies and start to do the same'.

Dems have done this for decades, they do juuuuuuuuuust enough theatrical garbage like this to make you think they're not all complicit, and then they turn around and openly aid the worst things imaginable. Not all of them, but always just enough of them for it to happen. And they're always the ones co-opting leftist rhetoric while hamstringing them as much as possible, you'll pardon me for mocking this newest rendition of liberal theater.

[–] ScrewCapital@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Again I do not disagree with your point about liberals being dog shit, the Dems being dog shit, and so on.

However this one action isn't nothing imo, The action disrupted the Senate. I hope they continue to disrupt the Senate. Like you said they're liberals, they're progressive capitalists at the end of the day. We can't expect them to work to overthrow the capitalist structure, that our job. But if my options are to encourage the childish anti fascist liberal behavior that's doing some slight action, or never compromise and let the liberals grift further to the right because they realize that the real left will never be happy. I'm going to encourage them to be childishly antifascist. Id rather have begrudgingly support liberal antifascist than nothing at all personally.

For real: What would you rather they do to start to disrupt the Republicans? I mean this genuinely as you seem intelligent, because frankly outside of blocking procedure idk what you expect.

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