Clown Population. The clowns inside the White House are only a small fraction of a total society of mock for mock, reactionary mocking, clowns. The entire nation is a "basket case of clowning around" on social machines / HDTV media machines / mockery.
People like to play a game of psychological denial and say ONLY MAGA is the clowns, only the White House is the clowns. It's the entire population of Untied States of America.
Clown Population. The clowns inside the White House are only a small fraction of a total society of mock for mock, reactionary mocking, clowns. The entire nation is a “basket case of clowning around” on social machines / HDTV media machines / mockery.
People like to play a game of psychological denial and say ONLY MAGA is the clowns, only the White House is the clowns. It’s the entire population of Untied States of America.
I know what will help! I'll sow even MOAR division! Yes! People haven't been divided enough by the billionaires and media owners on corpo social media, so I'm gonna bring division to the fediverse!
It sounds to me like you think this (the White House being "owned" by Putin) is all hilarious and funny. That surreal comedy and absurd Twitter-speak on social media machines is all LOL and hilarious for you to consume and react-comment to. At least that's my initial take on how you (your electric media message) are treating extremely serious Russian information warfare against NATO and especially the United States of America. You can take people off of Twitter, but you can't get them to stop the Tweet-style mockery and sarcasm to extremely important and serious matters.
Your reply serves to banalize that USA is attacking Canada and doing other absurd and hyper-real surreal comedy actions in service to the Kremlin.
“In the twenty-first century the techniques of the political technologists have become centralized and systematized, coordinated out of the office of the presidential administration, where Surkov would sit behind a desk on which were phones bearing the names of all the “independent” party leaders, calling and directing them at any moment, day or night. The brilliance of this new type of authoritarianism is that instead of simply oppressing opposition, as had been the case with twentieth-century strains, it climbs inside all ideologies and movements, exploiting and rendering them absurd. One moment Surkov would fund civic forums and human rights NGOs, the next he would quietly support nationalist movements that accuse the NGOs of being tools of the West. With a flourish he sponsored lavish arts festivals for the most provocative modern artists in Moscow, then supported Orthodox fundamentalists, dressed all in black and carrying crosses, who in turn attacked the modern art exhibitions. The Kremlin’s idea is to own all forms of political discourse, to not let any independent movements develop outside of its walls. Its Moscow can feel like an oligarchy in the morning and a democracy in the afternoon, a monarchy for dinner and a totalitarian state by bedtime.” ― Peter Pomerantsev, Nothing Is True and Everything Is Possible: The Surreal Heart of the New Russia, year 2014
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"People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it. They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you." - Banksy
Your read is way way way fucking off base. Might be my fault, I thought I was clear but I suppose I understand how one might not think so.
I do not find anything about this administration or their actions to be funny or amusing. I find the people and policies that makeup MAGA to be abhorrent. To be honest, I think you and I can probably agree politically on a lot of topics.
What I was commenting on, through sarcasm (my bad for not including the /s I guess), was your sweeping generalization. Those only serve to divide, further pushing members of the working class to splinter off into smaller groups to be more easily exploited and controlled by the ownership class.
Maybe its hyperbole and I missed it? Maybe not, perhaps you truly believe everyone in the US deserves, wanted, and supports what our government is doing. Perhaps you think we aren't doing enough to resist? I can agree to that, all the protests I've been to have been smaller than I had hoped. I'm also getting in touch with other orgs in my area to get more started, hopefully we can get something happening.
Idk what to tell you. Your post came off as very crass to me, and I responded with heavy sarcasm.
Perhaps you suffer from a media literacy problem of light-speed social machines. I suggest you study over on !CounterSurkov@lemm.ee ...
You react-comment instead of try to understand someone. I also suggest !JamesJoyceExperience@lemm.ee - it is a MASSIVE crisis all across the World Wide Web in year 2025 that people react-comment and don't seek understanding. James Joyce, Irish Writer, was dealing with the same crisis of Dublin life over 100 years ago. The metaphor of the "Tower of Babel" and how humans get in conflicts over language and jumping to conclusions and at each other's throat.
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"Finnegans Wake is the greatest guidebook to media study ever fashioned by man." - Marshall McLuhan, Newsweek Magazine, p.56, February 28, 1966
www.LazyWake.com
Interesting suggestion, I'll have to check it out when I get some time.
So if my post was a "react-comment," the implication being my lacking of media literacy has caused me to misunderstand you, can you at least do me the favor of clarifying your meaning? I asked some questions, answering those might help.
I'm trying to discuss this in good faith with you, but I truly do not think that's being reciprocated.
That's entirely my point. You may notice that I frequently cite books, magazines, professionally edited writings from professors, teachers, etc. I suggest you escape your fixation on my personal language and demonstrate some comprehension of the "Forest for Trees" topics being discussed using someone's words entirely not your own or mine. As I'm not here for pissing contest of !MasturbatoryEgoism@lemm.ee social machine comment section conflicts.
"I truly do not think that’s being reciprocated" <<< I witness that. Community description of this Lemmy community: "Clown Population. The clowns inside the White House are only a small fraction of a total society of mock for mock, reactionary mocking, clowns. The entire nation is a “basket case of clowning around” on social machines / HDTV media machines / mockery. People like to play a game of psychological denial and say ONLY MAGA is the clowns, only the White House is the clowns. It’s the entire population of Untied States of America."
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“For in the end, he was trying to tell us what afflicted the people in 'Brave New World' was not that they were laughing instead of thinking, but that they did not know what they were laughing about and why they had stopped thinking.” ― Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business, 1985
You've sited a single article and an anemic forum. I'm here to discuss things with other people, I don't have a fixation on your or anyone's personal language. Suggesting otherwise is absurd.
Sounds like you are under the influence of Kremlin simulacras. Seeing things as absurd and surreal via media machines.
What does "anemic forum" mean? Sounds like diss-talk, shit-tallk against something?
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“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” ― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark, 1995 ... /\ //\ /\ ... "Stand Up For the BIG GUY", "Stand up for Elon Musk", "Stand up for Putin and Russia", "Stand up for the Powerful", "Stand up for Donald Trump".Absent is: "stand up for the Little Guy", the rural Americans who have had their mind fucked by Russia, Elon Musk, Donald Trump, etc. Stand up for cult deprogramming of your fellow "small guy" is sure popular on social machine systems in 2024 and year 2025!
So you're just taking the piss. Got it. Thanks for wasting my time.
Not at all. Your replies all seem to be attacks against me. I'm entirely serious. People who consume clown content / entertainment all day every day ("memes") off social media often have a very hard time being able to tell when someone (or even when media content itself) is being serious and raising alarms about information warfare from the Kremlin. I witness this frequently.
My name is Stephen Alfred Gutknecht, I grew up in Fort Wayne, Indiana - what's your background?
I've been fighting the Russians on the Internet full time since summer of 2015. The USA has entirely lost the Hybrid War against Putin. !HybridWarLost@lemm.ee - and so many everyday social media users have "lost their hearts and minds" to anti-reality.
Is that what you are doing to me? are you just here for one-line insults that sound like Elon Musk on X media platform? I'm here to try and RESCUE people in NATO / USA from all the damage done since 2013 by the "Internet Research Agency". This isn't about entertaining people with "taking the piss" bullshit.
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“Social media, that little narcissism machine, the easiest way we have ever had to place ourselves on a pedestal of vanity, also is the mechanism that most efficiently breaks you up.” ― Peter Pomerantsev, This Is Not Propaganda: Adventures in the War Against Reality, 2019
My first comment was absolutely an attack at the content of your post and the generalization made (specifically the image description).
I don't give a flying fuck about your personal identity. Literally couldn't care less who you are, your name, your age - any personal details about you are completely irrelevant at this point in time.
One-line insults? Friend, you've suggested I had media literacy issues and vaguely malignant fixations in multiple comments. Is that not insulting?
I made a single comment that could, by the most generous of measures, be considered insulting because of how sarcastic it was. I used clinical language purposefully in an attempt to avoid anything that could be considered insulting. Hence anemic, in the context, meaning the forum you linked was rather small or inactive.
I'm not going to reveal any PII to you or anyone else here for any reasons. I want to discuss ideas and explore their merit, personal information is irrelevant.
Hate is bad. You probably need morality education, it is a very very common problem across the world. People on machines (computer hardware) can become really dehumanization to other people. Donald Trump and Elon Musk on their Apple iPhone can really spew hate against humanism and people.
I suggest Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. He is from Georgia USA, near where I was born. I can suggest this lesson: We have adopted in the modern world a sort of a relativistic ethic ... Most people can't stand up for their convictions, because the majority of people might not be doing it. See, everybody's not doing it, so it must be wrong. And since everybody is doing it, it must be right. So a sort of numerical interpretation of what's right. But I'm here to say to you this morning that some things are right and some things are wrong. Eternally so, absolutely so. It's wrong to hate. It always has been wrong and it always will be wrong. It's wrong in America, it's wrong in Germany, it's wrong in Russia, it's wrong in China. It was wrong in 2000 B.C., and it's wrong in 1954 A.D. It always has been wrong, and it always will be wrong. It's wrong to throw our lives away in riotous living. No matter if everybody in Detroit is doing it, it's wrong. It always will be wrong, and it always has been wrong. It's wrong in every age and it's wrong in every nation. Some things are right and some things are wrong, no matter if everybody is doing the contrary.
Subject of Lemmy posting this comment is in context with: "Clown Population" hates Canada because Twitter King shit-bird tweeted to
So you are only interested in "Big Media", like "The Mainstream Media" of Elon Musk or Donald Trump? interesting that you dismiss things based on them being small. "Stand up for the Big Guy", huh? Very popular in population these days, year 2024 and year 2025.
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“Hitlerism was a mass flight to dogma, to the barbaric dogma that had not been expelled with the Romans, the dogma of the tribe, the dogma that gave every man importance only in so far as the tribe was important and he was a member of the tribe.” ― Milton Sanford Mayer, They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45, published 1955
Thanks for the discussion. Have a good day ☺️
Same to you, have a great week.
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“I think that people with autism are born outside the regime of civilization. Sure, this is just my own made-up theory, but I think that, as a result of all the killings in the world and the selfish planet-wrecking that humanity has committed, a deep sense of crisis exists. Autism has somehow arisen out of this. Although people with autism look like other people physically, we are in fact very different in many ways. We are more like travelers from the distant, distant past. And if, by our being here, we could help the people of the world remember what truly matters for the Earth, that would give us a quiet pleasure.” ― Naoki Higashida, The Reason I Jump: the Inner Voice of a Thirteen-Year-Old Boy with Autism
I want to clarify that I was not being facetious with you, I truly wish you have a good day. I'd also love to discuss these topics with you further, but I think there's a breakdown in our communication styles that would unfortunately make doing so fruitless or unenjoyable for either/both of us. I want to understand your message, it's just not happening like this.
I do appreciate some of those links though, some good stuff in them. I also appreciate many of your arguments, even if I might not understand their relevance to our discussion.
Take care.
Your original post absolutely made sense and you're being way too patient with what I can only assume is a bot designed to destroy constructive conversation.
Division of humans in general leads to conflict. Your point is speak out when someone attempts to do this unfairly i.e. "ALL Americans are bad" is a terrible statement.
I mean I kept engaging purely out of curiosity and intrigue. I still haven't figured out if it's a bot or some weird social experiment, possibly both? I'm nuerodivergent myself, so I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt.
People have such trouble with English language on social media, I can give you professionally edited and written authors so you understand what I'm saying:
Do You Speak Fox? https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2020/09/fox-news-trump-language-stelter-hoax/616309/
5,000 patterns of anti-reality to attack all people on the Internet: https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/11/24/a-trumprussia-confession-in-plain-sight/
Everyone has been bamboozled by the Kremlin / Russia: https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/09/russia-putin-revolutionizing-information-warfare/379880/
All this was planned by billionaires in year 2013: https://lemmy.world/post/27627662 (link of articles)
Yha, that's why I cite so many other authors. I witness egomania on Lemmy, Bluesky, Reddit, Twitter (X) / Elon Musk platform / YouTube / Instagram / TikTok / Mastodon / etc - people get all worked up and angry over people with other skin colors, other nation flags, other languages, other styles and fashions, other genders (especially transgender). Egomania is raging on the World Wide Web in year 2024 and year 2025, it is out of control! Machine media systems have really wrecked humanity.
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The ‘Shared Psychosis’ of Donald Trump and His Loyalists. Forensic psychiatrist Bandy X. Lee explains the outgoing president’s pathological appeal and how to wean people from it - January 2021
It sounds to me like you're looking for conflict. Your language is very accusatory. And honestly, it really doesn't seem justified.
I a LIVING in the United States of America. I am LIVING in conflict. People are in denial.
Yes. I know. I live here, too. You know what fucks with my head? I've seen posts here on Lemmy outlining the specifics of how Trump/Musk actually stole the election. And you know what? If we've figured it out, then we're not the only ones. But nobody in a position of power and authority did anything. They knew; and they let him do it.
But anyway, I merely want to suggest that you're current tactics are more likely to alienate people. If you wish to get people to open their eyes, there might be better ways?
But I am just another idiot doom scrolling; what do I know, right? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I don't believe they manipulated votes. since 1999 I've lived in an RV as my home office, I've traveled and lived in 25 cities.
This is what USA has become since the introduction of the Apple iPhone in year 2007. Since all the streaming platforms and Elon Musk is a perfect example with the purchase of Twitter.
People are becoming so in love with technology and machines that they are dehumanizing people. That's the story of America.
This isn't a stolen election, people actually are attracted to a 78 year old man who has an Apple iPhone addiction and consumes Russian mental manipulation. Donald Trump does not live in objective scientific reality. He lives in Rupert Murdoch's Fox News HDTV and memes he consumes off the Internet. And all that matters to most people is that decoration on a meme makes an idea sound good. That a pretty picture along with one or two sentences of wors made almost any idea attractive.
People in the USA have become so meme addled since year 2015, they are attracted to the stereotype of a loud fat male American that the rest of the world thinks is "bad taste" and ignorant. The problem is morality comprehension, people are attracted to bad things. As long as they can keep consuming Fox News, Elon Musk antics, Reality TV, Joe Rogan, etc. They are putting into their minds more and more junk and Donald Trump attracts people.
The problem is "brain rot" of an entire society. Not "stolen elections". There are far better people out of 300 million that could be President, but people are attracted to the shit-talk and insults. The problem is: the people. The population.