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There are no cheaper schools. There are expensive ones and more expensive ones. There is literally no option for the non-rich except to go into debt or learn to be a plumber.
learning a trade should be more encouraged, you can make a shit ton of money (relatively) without the debt
This isn't even true in a lot of places now. If you have a college nearby, expect your local trade school to have tuition similar to that college.
True, but that isn't an option for everyone and we still need scientists and doctors and such.
oh i know but college shouldn't be the default. i work in elementary and they have college posters up in the halls.
College stuff up in elementary schools is pretty crazy.
Yes, but only because of shortage of people in that field, and good luck working in it as a disabled person! Most likely you'll work under someone else, and that's not like helping your father do gardening work, so there will be hard quotas and deadlines.
True, but that might take you 10 years to get to a point where you're no longer the new person and have skills to back it up.
Not sure what trade you guys do, but by the 2 year mark as an electrician I was hardly considered a new guy, and had most of the skills required. The next 8 years was learning every edge case that could pop up.
By year 5 though I was easily fine all out on my own. Most journeyman only need about 4 years of experience, and they're qualified to go start their own company.
No debt, little schooling, all of which was paid for by my companies, and an extremely valuable life skill. (Not to mention i get paid extremely well) Join a trade kids.
I made up a number when I said 10--it was rhetorical. But from your own story, you're looking at 5 before you're making the money.
More like 2 years, less than a degree requires.
that goes for any skilled labor. doesn't make what i said any less true.
also, there are paid apprenticeships with unions if you look.
lol tell that to my angry brothers who work in construction. they were so antiunion and it hurt them
Lots of trade schools are charging 10-20k/year and expecting 2 years of you…trades are great but we’re using student loans for them too depending on where you are*
*large cities tend to have better cheaper options like community college and there at least was some small federal schools that didn’t require loans. But not all areas have equal coverage here and you often get price gouged if you aren’t from that very specific city/town the community college is in. Tl;dr hopefully you live in an area with good resources which is not even remotely guaranteed.
cheaper to get education in europe. It's not like us schools are any better than eu ones that take like 2.5k a year and offer loans from the government that are reasonable.
Community College is awesome, literally the only problem is that they don't offer bachelor's degrees. You can learn certain skills for work from one which is nice and you can complete an associates degree which can sometimes be useful for work but you really need the Bachelors to get anywhere and my heart take is that Community College is shut off for a limited range of Bachelors degrees, not as many as state U but maybe a half dozen or so.