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[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 17 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Dental health of hunter gathers looks like it was much better than ours:

"Hunter-gatherers had really good teeth," says Alan Cooper, director of the Australian Centre for Ancient DNA. "[But] as soon as you get to farming populations, you see this massive change. Huge amounts of gum disease. And cavities start cropping up."

Additionally, they had better spacing due to eating tougher foods like high fiber items and tendons. So there's less dental impacting like we have with wisdom teeth.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Survivalship bias at it's finest. In literal sence of the word

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 5 points 20 hours ago

Yeah things didn't really get better until Modern Dentistry so it took several thousand years to get better than hunter-gatherer level

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I went to eating like the great plains American first people about 2 years ago and haven't brushed my teeth since

About three months ago I had a dentist clean the plaques off my teeth and check them, to ensure I wasn't too misguided and my teeth had no new damage

The ancient people with great teeth also had bigger heads and bigger jaws. They could fit wisdom teeth

[–] nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

what does that look like? what's a normal day's food look like for you?

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Beef, since cattle are the main product of my region. The native Americans ate bison

For dental health the best is no carbohydrates, few acids

Human skeletons don't show dental damage until the rise of agriculture, especially bread

I note that allergies prevent me from adding vegetables - I can't be healthy if I eat tannins or oxalates, many others can tolerate both of those

[–] nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

interesting. do you cook it? how much do you eat on average?

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

While true, they exist today, and have a life expectancy of like 30. So mostly they just die before their teeth decay.

https://medium.com/@kennamai/the-truth-of-hunter-gatherers-the-healthiest-but-lower-life-expectancy-why-5bb2f149e165

33% of children die by the age of 15.

There is of course merit to us having active lifestyles, controlling calorie intake, and balancing our diets, but that's in addition to the fact that we live almost 3x as long as we used to due to modern medicine, so we should continue to follow modern medicine, science, and nutrition.

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Nothing in this article addressed tooth decay or dental formation issues.

Also from the article:

Hunter-gatherers who live until the age of 15 typically experience a lifespan of around 72 years. Among elderly hunter-gatherers, the incidence of diseases such as cancer and high blood pressure is very low. When recalculating the average lifespan excluding child mortality, the average lifespan for hunter-gatherers ranges from 68 to 78 years.

I also never said we shouldn't follow science or modern medicine.