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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

You have the freedom to choose God or face an eternity of unimaginable suffering.

[–] dontbelasagne@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

No good god would make an unlasting punishment. if you have forever, then even Hitler, Dahmer would have enough time for a finite punishment. Even the worst people in the world don't deserve a unlasting punishment.

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 1 points 45 minutes ago

The Nicean Council excluded a bunch of books, and Jesus was Jewish. In kabbalah, you learn about reincarnation, and so why did people think Jesus and John were OT prophets? So karma isn't a punishment, but a teacher, you repeat lessons, which are scaffolded, until they are mastered. Well, why don't you remember past life lessons? Why aren't crib sheets allowed in exams? Is doing the right thing only for personal gain still the right thing? Then no one should be upset with billionaires for reversing dei. And Jesus said the whole law can be summed love God, love your neighbor as yourself. Not better than, not less than. And that the kingdom of heaven is within us. Also the fall of the morning star gave "the devil" the earth as his dominion. "Be in the world, not of it," and "be wise as serpents, innocent as doves," eg be neither boot nor doormat. Love you neighbor as yourself. Ha-Satan is the prosecutor, who freely comes and goes into heaven (where is the Kingdom?) who lists every reason (sin) you don't get to be there (schism of self). And a defending angel can list one redeeming quality and you're in. You passed that particular lesson set. Now you have a new set.

Also Jesus said he teaches in parables, don't take things so literally. Why wouldn't he want every student to understand? They're not on that lesson set, yet. Someone just learning division isn't ready for trig.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I always wondered about that. When would enough be enough.

[–] dontbelasagne@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

It could take hundreds or thousands of years but no one person deserves unending punishment for finite sins.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Depends on the flavour of Christianity

At one end unforgiven sins condemn you to the ancient Greek underworld, slightly modified

At the other end you land in limbo if you haven't been perfect for a time that fits, thence to heaven for the rest of forever

Beyond that end, their god is infinitely forgiving so everyone goes straight to heaven.

[–] GoodLuckToFriends@lemmy.today 1 points 19 minutes ago

At the other end you land in limbo if you haven’t been perfect

Slight correction, but limbo was the 'first' area of hell, where you just get bored forever. Purgatory was where you washed off the crusted shit on your soul and could eventually get into heaven.