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[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I see from the "View source" option that your comment has everything in a neat, line-by-line fashion, though the final markup is decidedly not.

So, a pro-tip I've noticed from my own commenting experience: even if you have a line break, Lemmy (for some stupid reason) won't apply one when rendering; so if you want it to show, you have to use two line breaks, though then there will be an extra half-line or so that you probably never wanted.

For example, don't do

Line Item 1
Line Item 2

but rather do

Line Item 1

Line Item 2

Yes, I agree it's rather stupid.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

It's the way Markdown works, for reasons, which is what Lemmy uses for its comment syntax.

If you want a regular line
break, you can put two spaces
at the end of a line.

Holy shit I've been using markdown message boards for years and
you just blew my mind

[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I know, and I don't like that limitation. Lol. xD

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense here. Codeberg uses a Markdown flavor which honors single line breaks and it kind of surprised me how well that is working. Like, if you're used to Markdown, you can put those two spaces and they're just ignored. If you're not used to Markdown, it works like you'd expect.

I guess, the downside is that either each client needs to configure their Markdown renderer to behave like that, or I guess, the server software has to pre-process the Markdown to add in the double-spaces.
That's more of a problem for Lemmy than it is for Codeberg, because there is a number of different clients available.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Jerboa vs. the website do different things since they render Markdown differently. Markdown itself is so spartan that it doesn’t have many things users want or need, so a bunch of incompatible forks get made & everyone just pretends it is all the same when in reality, it often lies on a single tool’s implementation.

Take AsciiDoc with its verse directive or reStructuredText with its line-block directive. Both get you poetry-style newlines on demand & are a part of the spec instead of left to the implementer.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, that's kind of the advantage and disadvantage of Markdown. It's so simple that alternative implementations can be easily created, which helps with adoption. But because those alternative implementations exist and because there is a need to add more features, those alternative implementations will see custom changes for the format, ultimately making the format less standardized.

Didn't know that Codeberg did that. I'll have to add that to my list of reasons why I love Codeberg. Lol.