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New Firefox Terms "does NOT give us ownership of your data" (connect.mozilla.org)

submitted 2 months ago by Vincent to c/firefox@lemmy.world

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Thanks everyone for your active participation here. We knew this would have a lot of interest and so we’ve waited to dive into the conversation because we see some themes emerging that I’ll respond to broadly here. The main concerns I’m noting are around the license agreements we declare, our use of data for AI, and our Acceptable Use Policy. Below are a few clarifications to each of these areas.

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[–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (26 children)

"It does NOT give us ownership of your data"

Then why did it say that it does?

"When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox."

If we insist on having terms at all, then GOOD and user-respecting terms are ones which list clearly, precisely and exhaustively exactly what data will be used for what purpose under what circumstance.

BAD and corporate-favouring terms are ones which make broad, sweeping statements which can be interpreted any way the company likes in their favour - and where changes to how and what data is shared and transmitted can be made any time without updating the terms, because the terms are so broad they cover just about anything.

Pretty clear which one of those things the new terms are.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (24 children)

Uhh, because without letting Firefox use the information you type, you would have a very shitty word processor instead of a web browser?

Imaging typing "www.google.com" and Firefox just sits there because without your permission to use the data you gave it, Firefox would ethically not be able send that text to a DNS server.

That's what that means.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

You need to understand that what you wrote is utter bullshit and not how any of this works, or has ever worked.

Mozilla is not the software running on your computer and you having some sort of agreement with them is not even slightly required for the software running locally to connect to the third-party server that you, the user, directed it to connect to.

Adding Mozilla ToS to Firefox is like putting "vegan" labels on tomatoes: it's not just pointless, but also suspicious.

[–] Vincent 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's suspicious, because you think those tomatoes have dairy or meat in them?

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Maybe Beefsteak tomatoes?

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