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[โ€“] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Either everything is God's plan or nothing is.

These parents deserve a conviction for involuntary manslaughter.

[โ€“] Oisteink 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Gods plan and free will are interesting, and the relationship between them differs a lot between different types of Christianity

[โ€“] Speculater@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Strangely, there's no disagreement between atheists.

Edit: About god's plan. I sent this and immediately remembered many atheists don't believe in free will.

[โ€“] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

God's plan is a cop out for people to explain things they don't understand.

[โ€“] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's why they hit you with the "mYsTeRiOuS wAyS" when you call them on it.

[โ€“] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 months ago

mYsTeRiOuS wAySโ€

"Yes, like scientists creating vaccines."

"No, not like that."

[โ€“] Oisteink 2 points 3 months ago

As an atheist myself iโ€™d say that free will might exist in a limited form.

[โ€“] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 3 points 3 months ago

Mere mortals can still plan to delegate decision making to the roll of a die. We do it all the time playing board games. It's still planned.

Imagine being omnipotent and delegating decisions to the apes' free will that you created. Same thing.

It's still either absolute and naught between.

Trying to have a philosophical argument with theosophists is pointless as they're not arguing as rationalists. One can't explain away a complex problem with a more complex problem: you just end up with two complex problems.