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[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

FATAL HARDWARE ERROR: PROCESSOR CORE is generally not a transient error. Good for you that your old CPU is still going strong, but anecdata does not an argument make. This was my work machine and I can't risk it going down.

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Recommending that somebody upgrade their hardware that is currently working fine because your hardware took a dump is the literal definition of anecdotal evidence.

I’m not saying that you did anything wrong by updating, I’m saying that you shouldn’t be implying that your experience “dodging a bullet” means other people have bullets coming at them.

When does it stop btw? How many years old does hardware have to be for you to feel like you need to upgrade when nothings wrong? (Am I misinterpreting what you said? I thought you said you ordered new stuff before your current system threw a bsod.) Why not buy two of everything when you upgrade and just have cold spares lying around?

To be completely fair though, a 3600 is prolly a bit long in the tooth for certain games, if that’s what you do. I mainly play the finals and I’m having to fight the urge to upgrade my 5800x. It’s good enough, but a 5800x3d isn’t enough of an uplift to justify it and the current performance isn’t bad enough to justify the price of an upgrade to a new socket. I feel like if I was still on a 3600 I’d have pulled the trigger on the upgrade already.

Edit - Also that can absolutely be a transient error. It can be related to too high fclk and/or vsoc voltage, etc. But you’ve already replaced the parts so it doesn’t matter.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

First of all, yes, everyone using older technology "has bullets coming at them", you clearly know as well as I do about wear and tear in electronic components so I don't know why the tone of your reply implies that older hardware will run fine forever as long as "nothing is wrong". It's a balancing act; you can't know if something's gonna go wrong with your hardware until it does, but failure rates go up the older it gets, plain and simple.

Secondly, yes, you completely misunderstood what I said. I upgraded before anything went wrong, for gaming and local AI primarily, and because I wanted to avoid the tariffs I knew were coming. I repurposed my old system in its entirety into a server, and not even a few months later it BSOD'd with the fatal hardware error. I know it can be a transient error, I said it's generally not, because that's my experience in the absence of overheating/overvolting. I had not overclocked at all, I don't feel like risking it for a few extra percent performance when I'm running a system for long-term stability.

Finally, I think you'll find that I not only didn't recommend an upgrade and just parted out an upgrade kit at what most would consider a reasonable price these days, but that I ALSO labeled my experience as an anecdote. Meanwhile, you gave your anecdote like it shows I'm an asshole or an idiot, or both, for upgrading when my PC wasn't on literal fire. Fuck me for trying to help a buddy out on the Internet, I guess.

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The lifespan of a CPU, as long as you repaste it to keep it from overheating and stuff, is like 20 years.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah, clearly no component has ever died or could ever die earlier than its longest possible life span for any reason, overheating due to bad/old paste is the only possible reason a CPU in particular might die, you know everything about every system ever built including mine. I see my mistake and bow to your omniscience 🙄

Seriously, I'm embarrassed for you. Good luck in your studies.