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"Latino people will never vote for a woman because of machismo."
I made this point on a TikTok comment and a liberal double downed with the idea that Latinos in US are fundamentally different from the ones in Mexico
i mean the person is not entirely wrong there, much of the latino diaspora in the US are petty bourgeoisie of latin america.
In the context of blaming Latinos for the election of Trump it’s disingenuous. Sure there are some right wing Cubans in Miami, but as an entire demographic it makes no sense to claim Latinos could never vote for a liberal woman — which was the real content of the claim
Oh for sure, his base is still the white working class and petty bourgeoisie. I just wanted to clarify that Trump won the vote of many of these minorities precisely because they're petty bourgeois and are completely chudified. The US is the stronghold of the worldwide petty bourgeoisie.
that's the fascinating that about grouping latinos together as a voting block. the conservatives in miami are vastly outnumbered by the latino evangelicals throughout the southwestern united states; but most only consider miami.
the person you responded to is right that a significant majority of the middle and upper class latinos (aka the public figures you see on legacy media) have petite bourgeoisie origins in latin america; sheinbaum would be one of them if she had immigrated to the united states.
however it's the latinos in the lower classes (especially the working poor) in this country that are the overwhelming majority that drive downward the american socioeconomic indicators that re-enforce the stereotypes and justify the treatment of latinos as people of color in the united states; their voices are both at odds with upper class' amplified voices and what helped trump win.
Considering Kamala was a ghoul of the second highest order, you are right, Latinos could never vote for a liberal woman president, because none have been offered to them.
Go read Defectors by Paola Ramos.
Yeah that's true though. Miami Cubans are different than Cubans too
To an extent yes, because the options offered to Latinos in the U.S is "be white supremacist adjacent" or be a "loser liberal".