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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Kyiv would like to end the war with Russia next year through "diplomatic means" as both countries prepare for President-elect Donald Trump's return to the White House.

In an interview with the Ukrainian media outlet Suspilne, Zelenskyy said he is certain that the war will end "sooner" than it otherwise would have once Mr. Trump becomes president.

The prospect of Trump returning to power in the United States next year has raised questions about the future of the conflict, as the Republican has been critical of U.S. military aid to Kyiv.

Zelenskyy said that Ukraine "must do everything so that this war ends next year, ends through diplomatic means."

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The best reason to end any war is to ask how everyone can just stop killing one another.

This is modern day civilization, not the barbarian hordes of Europe 1500 years ago.

We have a choice to act civilized or like our ignorant ancestors from thousands of years ago.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

War is a necessity as long as Imperialism remains the dominant contradiction in the world, we need to move beyond Capitalism to move beyond war.

[–] Cryan24@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What's the better alternative to capitalism?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Socialism. I wrote an intro reading list for Marxism if you want to check it out.

[–] md5crypto@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

ask yourself in whose interest is it to continue this insane war.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

(Military corporations in the US and Russia)

[–] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And let's not forget Russia's support from that batch. This war is just another money scheme

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

True. DC is not an irradiated pile of ruble because of the theater of permawar that Russia eventually wins is the script. US loses all wars because victory ends a war, and brings oil prices back down.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thousand years from now, the same statement will be made of us. We humans change little.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Humans change quite a bit depending on Mode of Production, which shapes culture and norms.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I absolutely disagree. Lots of history proves that we are still motivated by primal instincts of self preservation. It always comes down to that.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lots of history proves that humans behaved differently based on the economic system in place. Why do you believe slavery has largely been abolished? Did humans suddenly change their minds about it?

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world -5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You’re thinking to high level. I’m talking about what actually drives us. Slavery has been largely abolished (but not really) because it’s out of fashion. We haven’t fundamentally changed the way we think. We’re far more alike our ancient ancestors than we think.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

No, slavery was abolished because of technological progress and changes in Mode of Production. I'm thinking in a Historical Materialist perspective, there wasn't a random beaming of empathy in humanity.

[–] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Slavery still exists in multiple different forms tho

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

Slavery used to be far more common than it is today.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Whatever, you’re missing the point.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago

No, I'm not. I am saying you are taking an abstract, idealist analysis that misses real historical motivations.

[–] CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 months ago

You dont have a point other than people bad. It's the most insipid, unthinking comment you could possibly make.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago

What drives us ultimately is our material conditions. You think you just fell out of a coconut tree? You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you. BTW, Harris’ dad is a Marxist, which is where I’m sure her comment sprang from.