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NewPipe, Piped, Invidious, etc's days are numbered. (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 years ago by AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.ml

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With Reddit shutting down its API setting a precedent in the corporate tech world (and Reddit was a major outlier in that a ton of their users are technical minded and support third party clients, YouTube does not have that kind of userbase and will not get backlash for it), Twitter doing whatever the fuck they're doing, and Google already hellbent on destroying ad blockers, the days of Newpipe, Invidious, and Freetube are numbered. Wouldn't be surprised if they implement Netflix level DRM tomorrow that makes alt clients impossible. I say savour your alt clients while you can guys, you won't be able to soon.

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[–] cambionn 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This idea comes up every once in a while. So far nothing has shown that actually makes it look like NewPipe etc. are being blocked, which wouldn't even be possible unless the whole site goes behind a login. We saw for Twitter how that went, they opened up again enough that stuff like Piped could work.

Even resent Invidious blocks are just based on IP of clients they recognised, simply because they can't block the technique used to access the videos. That's why regularily switching their IPv6 is what's keeping Invidious working.

They don't use API's like Twitter and Reddit clients did. It's a whole different thing on the technical side. What happened with those clients isn't as connected with these privacy-front ends as you may think.

On the same side, these privacy front-ends aren't nearly as widely used as alternative Twitter or Reddit clients, and many of those who use it wouldn't switch to the official YT app/website if they block it. The gains are minimal, the effort a lot. Blocking the addblock that Average Joe uses is a much bigger deal, and much easier. In a similar fashion are browser extensions more often recognised by anti-addblocking techniques than a pi-hole addblocker. Gain/effort proportions are quite different.

So honestly, I doubt they'll be gone any time soon. People are calling the end way too easily/quickly while there is no sign that it'll actually about to happen.