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Irish people who still experience racism in the UK would disagree.
Irish isn't a race of people......that's an ethnicity, therefore they experience ethnic prejudice.
Is the Wikipedia definition wrong then? You should have it edited.
"Racism is discrimination and prejudice against people based on their race or ethnicity." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism
Your pedantry is both boring and incorrect. The origin of the word involves race, but its usage extends beyond that. Language evolves. As does our scientific understanding of what constitutes race and ethnicity and its all more social construct than anything well defined.
Lol, depending on context yeah. If you read further into the article you'd find that it's not a black and white subject.
"While the concepts of race and ethnicity are considered to be separate in contemporary social science"
Because westerners are so obsessed with race as an inherent truth, ethnicity and race have evolved to be similes in the English language. This is similar to how sex and gender are often used as similes, and that works in most cases, but it's not appropriate in scientific context.
It's not pedantry when the argument is specifically about differentiating between racism and ethnic conflict.
My first statement was a rebuttal to someone claiming that racism hasn't ever been a problem in China.
Race is entirely a social construct, equating it to ethnicity is just wildly inaccurate and does nothing but validate the theory of racial science.
Again referring to westerners as a block without nuance, while thinking you understand nuance while westerners dont. Of course context is important. In context your comments are I'll informed and insulting, while condescending without the understanding to have such grounds.
Yes, race is a construct, as I pointed out. Ethnicity is too, more by definition. China also has xenophobia and racism. Ask Tibet. Ask the Uighurs. Han Chinese is not the ibky Chinese. Ask Taiwan or hong Kong nationals. That's not news to anyone.
Your reply doesnt add anything useful, so well leave it there.
Lol, first I was being pedantic and now I'm not being nuanced? Under the context of racial science, labeling it as a western ideology is correct and fairly specific. What exactly is it lacking in nuance?
Ethnicity has a set definition in the social sciences. Simply calling something a social construct does not equate it to flawed social constructs like race. Unless you are claiming that things like language and culture are just as meaningless as someone's skin color, then there are inherent differences between ethnicity and race.
Xenophobia yes, racism no. If race has no pertinence to racism, why utilize the terminology? Why preserve the ideology of a long debunked science?
What race are the Chinese and Tibetan?
Lol, you are getting even more wrong the more you type. People from HK and Taiwan are the same race, and ethnicity. You are now equating nationality to race......
I can tell you totally understand what youre talking about.....