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TIL there is an fediverse alternative to Discord (matrix.org)
submitted 2 years ago by PopBobert@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world
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About Matrix Matrix is an open protocol for decentralised, secure communications.

Matrix Manifesto We believe:

People should have full control over their own communication. People should not be locked into centralised communication silos, but instead be free to pick who they choose to host their communication without limiting who they can reach. The ability to converse securely and privately is a basic human right. Communication should be available to everyone as a free and open, unencumbered, standard and global network.

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[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Personally I don't think it's quite there yet. Element is probably the best Matrix app but not quite at parity for ease of use to a regular user and the general design and feel of discord is better... For now

I believe it will get there though. We've seen the enshittification cycle happen so many times to chat apps historically it's basically the most inevitable that discord will collapse eventually. Is anyone still using AIM? MSN? Case in point.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I remember how quickly furriea moved from groupme to telegram. Anyone remember skype or oovoo?

Honestly doscord not being shit already is impressive

[–] Chickerino 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

i'd give it one or two years before discord undergoes some serious enshittification, with the way most other social media websites have gone down, presumably due to them not being really profitable anymore, im sure discord will start pushing people into nitro more and more as time goes on, i mean as most other platforms discord is already taking advantage of our data, but so did twitter and look where twitter is going now lol

[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Mostly true although I'd caution on the use of "profit" here. Profit isn't the problem that causes this. Growth is. Almost all of these companies grow using investor money operating at a loss, radically cut costs then sell, netting their investors a packet.

It's when the growth slows that the enshittification occurs (via radically cutting costs).

The only "profit" that matters is at the point of sale for the various company owners that invested.

[–] Chickerino 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

yea i agree, growth would be a better word to use here

[–] Secret300@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I definitely don't think element is the best but yes it's not there yet. Honestly the performance has gotten a lot better but I'm still waiting for VoIP.

https://element.io/blog/introducing-native-matrix-voip-with-element-call/

[–] nadir@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I think those were merged quite a while ago, right?

[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If not element what do you prefer?

[–] Secret300@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Cinny or fluffychat

[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Interesting. Last I tried Cinny it was behind Element. I'll give it a look again. Haven't tried Fluffy. Linux and mobile only?

[–] Secret300@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

ye basically, you can use flufflychat in the web browser as well