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It is unfortunately such a PITA to self host. Spent hours a few weeks ago trying to set it up and failed.
Same experience. I wanted initially to make our own server for our company. So we could chat and communicate. Make public channels for support, etc. It's such a nightmare to host and after days of trying I gave up. They also had bunch of problems when I tried using it. I even forced all of my developers to use it for work. Messages would get delayed, even lost. Signal is what we currently use for chat and it just works.
You could always use Yunohost - it makes things much easier.
Never heard of it. I'll give it a look. Thanks.
I've never had anything like that in the past few years of using matrix
Mind you at the time I tried to use it, it was super early. Issues might be fixed by now. Or might not.
They definitely have been fixed
Uh? You need a DB server/service, and it's basically a python script that runs in a venv, which can be easily setup on anything vaguely linux related. If you don't want to bother with the command to setup a venv, there's also a docker image I believe. We set that up in an emergency when covid restrictions showed up and so far the worst issue we have is sometime the client takes a few minutes to refresh after long breaks.
Bro you've just got to disentangle the gigabytes on the flux stack mainframe bro, it's easy bro
That made me lol
The average person does not self-host services yet. And if that comes to be, then yes, it will be common knowledge at that point. There's also a fairly comprehensive documentation to get anyone with basic knowledge started.
I tried to run it with the docker image. Still a PITA. I’m not a noob when it comes to self hosting services.
Same. We had three developers try to make it work for a local makerspace and we failed. The default instructions are too complex ATM. I want to make it work sometime but that experience makes me want to wait. I only have so many weekends.
IRC is still a thing.
Ain't that the truth, IRC was arguably the easiest service for me to set up, it had all the defaults basically set I think I only have the change one or two settijgs and open the ports, anything else was optional and it came with all the bells and whistles (of what you can get out of IRC.. lol)
Yep super easy. And if you had a third party client it's even easier for others.
Its requirements are insane.. My little minipc which easily hosts my lemmy (multiple channels) and mastodon server (follow about 100 people plus retoots) without breaking a sweat couldn't manage it. Installed matrix and subscribed to one channel and it simply buried the machine.. I had trouble getting control back to shut it down.
sheeet.. just switched it back on for a test.. 2 minutes in and the load average is >60 & it's already consumed 14 gigabytes. Idle.
I don't think that's normal. I run Synapse and Postgres, and they only take about 200mb of ram together. Load is less than 2% on a 2-core vm.
give conduit a try its a homeserver implementation written in rust and is alot more lightweight then synapse which is the first HS implementation for matrix
I spent so much damn time banging my head against the wall with it too. I could host an email server easier and get DKIM and all the various dns configs up and runnjng easier.
Right. I think we need something simpler.
I'd be happy with something like irc, but with e2e, history and the ability to receive messages when offline.
Don't need stickers, voice chat, video chat etc.