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[–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Of course the Germans have the longest spelling. Why use four letters when you can use sixteen?

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Use Friede and you already save one letter though it might carry religious overtones. Writing Fride might be ambiguous in spelling but as there's no "Fridde" it's not actually a problem. In any case the root is "Fried" (and yes belfries might have gotten their name from there) and you can be sure both Frieden and Friede are pronounced like that somewhere (over here it's Friedn and Friede), and as German spelling doesn't (officially) use apostrophes all over the place when spelling out contractions and everything writing Frid would be highly non-standard, but you'd definitely get away with it in a poem. Just don't show it to someone who studied Germanistik auf Lehramt.

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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Pretty sure all the green ones are pronounced "Freed" rather than "Fred". The German one definitely is, the rule in German with "ie" or "ei" is that you pronounce the second letter, so "Frieden" is pronounced "Freeden". I think this is suprising close to "Freedom".

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's thought it is closely related to free and friend with a base meaning to love in the brotherly sense. https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/frijaz

[–] BlueKey@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

German here. An 'ie' means the 'i' is streatched. So 'Frieden' is pronounced more like "Friden" with long 'i'.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

So 'Freitag' is pronounced 'free-tag'?

I was taught 'ie' = 'eeee', and 'ei' = 'eye'. For an English speaker, you pronounce the name of the second letter.

When checking Google translate with audio, they pronounce 'Frieden' as 'Free-den'.

If there are exceptions to that rule I'd genuinely like to hear them.

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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

Fred

Fuck Fred, that guy is an asshole.

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

These are always interesting. Thanks for sharing

[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

It is 「ピース」or "piisu" in Japanese

Though that is a loan word version, I dont yet know if there's a native equivalent

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This is the native version of the word: https://jpdb.io/vocabulary/1154070/%E5%AE%89%E6%B3%B0/%E3%81%82%E3%82%93%E3%81%9F%E3%81%84?lang=english#a

*disclaimer: I'm learning japanese so it's not my native language

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[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

The Sith will never bring peace!

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