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[โ€“] e_mc2 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Verstappen being the only driver to finish with zero track limits. Absolute insane synergy between a driver and his car.

[โ€“] qdJzXuisAndVQb2@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He's a monster. Peak Hamilton vibes, give him the car, he will put it where it belongs. I think he's more ruthless than Hamilton, actually.

[โ€“] June@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As long as RB keeps giving him good cars, I see him having a comparable WDC series to Lewis, if not breaking the 7 championship barrier. Heโ€™s absolutely incredible.

[โ€“] GuyDudeman@beige.party 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@June @qdJzXuisAndVQb2 I just wish it were more competitive. Itโ€™s boring that he wins every time.

[โ€“] hagelslager 4 points 2 years ago

Oddly enough, this is the most competitive season in a long while, just not for the first position.

[โ€“] June@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It was the same during Lewisโ€™ 7 seasons of dominance.

[โ€“] GuyDudeman@beige.party 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

@June I wasnโ€™t a fan then, but was he winning by 30-sec. and lapping everyone?

[โ€“] omgarm 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Mercedes was from 2014 to 2016. In 2017 and 2018 the gap was smaller. 2019 it was back to before.

The only difference was that Merc had some weak tracks (Mexico at least) where RB would regularly win.

[โ€“] JustAManOnAToilet@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Even then they weren't ahead or winning by that much. And of the Merc wins you had the constant fight between Hamilton and Rosberg. Any given race you had 1 of 3 drivers that could win, in 2014 Ham/Ros/Ric, 2015 Ham/Ros/Vet, 2016 was pretty much Ham/Ros though.

[โ€“] omgarm 2 points 2 years ago

They weren't that far ahead because the Mercedes was turned down to hide their true potential.

[โ€“] June@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Iโ€™m not sure cause I wasnโ€™t a regular watcher, but I do recall the same conversations about races being boring since Lewis won them all.

[โ€“] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yes.

He was gone by the first corner, never looking back. You had some days where maybe redbull or ferrari had a sniff, but like a good 90% of the races were decided after T1

[โ€“] GuyDudeman@beige.party 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@TheBlue22

Ok then yeah, I can see why people would have gotten tired of that.

[โ€“] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's why I don't understand why people complain about verstappen.

People who do it are either new fans who have no idea about the history of the sport or how the sport works or salty Hamilton fans who are pissed that their favourite driver is not dominating anymore.

Domination is the norm, not the exception in this sport. There were seasons, of course, where we had some incredible fight, but that's more of an exception than the rule

[โ€“] dlok@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

21 was definitely the exception not the rule, that season was mental.

[โ€“] smeg@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

On the one hand it was probably easier for him because he had clean air and could take it a bit easier. On the other he could do those things because he put himself so far ahead in the first place!

[โ€“] herc3141@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

No Sainz, Hamilton & Verstappen on the list

[โ€“] espentan@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago

Hamilton quite clearly breached track limits. Carlos gets a pass.

[โ€“] dmonzel@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

Two of those aren't like the other.

[โ€“] prashanthvsdvn@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Sainz didnโ€™t start due to a problem in his car. Hamilton beached in the very first turn in the first lap itself. Not sure about verstappen but I wouldnโ€™t put past him that he drove in a perfect manner. The synergy between him and his car is unbelievable.

[โ€“] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 years ago

Verstappen, keeping massive distance between him and his competition while not going over track limits ONCE is insane.

He is built different

[โ€“] bedo6776@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm new to following F1, does the track need another redesign or is this just bad driving on an unfamiliar track?

[โ€“] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Depends on who you ask. Some say it's bad track design as you're naturally trying to extract the best lap time possible. It's hard to judge exactly how much is too much and drivers can't really feel it without there being gravel for example. Others say drivers could easily stay within track limits if they were to sacrifice a bit of lap time. Both parties are correct in a way.

[โ€“] EyesEyesBaby@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Just bring the gravel traps a lot closer and the problem would solve itself.

[โ€“] smeg@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

They did a last-minute layout change for safety reasons, so it was an unfamiliar track in really tough conditions. Stroll (I think) mentioned that they only have a painted white line which is blurry due to the speed and g-force.