Fediverse

Well, we (old farts) know shit, kids are brainwashed nowadays.

I certainly fit the bill at 46 and in a tech-related job (although I'm on a Mac, in part because my job is on the design end).

And I'm good with that. I hated getting into it with someone on Reddit and realizing I was arguing with a child. I felt like such a fool.

I think it is something along those lines, the early adopters are quite fed up with Reddit and have the knowledge to explore new options. The fediverse is still strange and not so easy to understand for the casual user.

Sub-30 yo but super-20 yo

STEM equal, just not tech

Windows user (although I have Linux installed on my PC)

Close, but rly close enough

Jeez I’m not that old

From what I see on Local we are

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Yes, I'm one too. That's why I am here. The channels are generally relevant to me, and I can communicate with people, and not disappear in the mob, or deal constantly with low effort smart ass comments, trolls and bots.

What is it that you want to win? http://web.archive.org/web/20230707004346/https://ploum.net/2023-07-06-stop-trying-to-make-social-networks-succeed.html

im studying CS

im in the late 30s

i've been a tech enthusiast for a bit more than 30 years

i dont use linux though

More users will come. it's all about the memes and fun discussions though. Memes is what drew me towards reddit. i just wanted to "scroll" for some entertainment, when i first found the site.

and being able to google, and finding reddit links helps.

i've yet to find a link to lemmy, by googling anything - even if i include the word lemmy.

On reddit we had a ton of "general" hobby subreddits. houseplants, cast iron, woodworking etc

i've not been searching for specific communities (search doesnt work super well i think) but i've yet to randomyl spot any communities that fall in to that category. it's mostly.. tech related subreddits.

the "common folk" wants hobbies, sports, news, etc.

22 years old prospective CS student here.

Yep. Sounds about right, polls I’ve seen on mastodon also shows this: https://mastodon.art/@jsstaedtler/110668308409683502

I'm an ageless, multi-planar being located outside of time. My New Deal policies benefited from it.

Hot shit I'm home and I didn't even know!

The youth have an innate pressure to follow trends and their peers. They need and crave social acceptance while still lacking the means to be independent and "go their own way", so it's not viable to expect younger users to form the bulk of pioneering users of an unproven platform like the fediverse.

Older user will generally be more confident and independent, especially when the craving for social approval is not as powerful as it was in younger users.

*looks at self*:

• 40
• nerd
• chief amongst my nerddoms being tech

I feel both insulted and understood at the same time

Woah now, who said people over 30 are old? 😮

Anyway, your average internet user in 2023 wants to sign in to a platform with ease (preferably using one tap sign in with their Facebook/Google/whatever account).

They also want that one platform to have everything, in an easy to access and digest format, without having to learn complex rules about how a system works.

The days of needing to understand a bunch of stuff to use the latest social media service are gone, and if we build a website/service that requires us to know and understand more complex stuff, and add more barriers to entry, and MOST IMPORTANTLY if we split it up in to a thousand little corners instead of having it all in one place? People will shy away.

Another issue is consistency. People, myself included, want consistency and accountability. I want the people running the platform to be publicly known figures/companies that are accountable for the platform and how they run it, but with this fediverse stuff, it can be run by any anonymous person, who could be doing anything with the private data in our account back ends. And that could be the case hundreds of times over, with all sorts of groups, from all around the world.

There's no accountability, no way to ensure they're meeting requirements of our laws. It's all very untrustworthy and wild west.

That's fine for some people, but the majority of normal users? They want security, they want safety, they want simple ease of use.

Doesn't bother me

Yes - guilty! We understand what it is, and we have used the centralized systems long enough to remember how they started. It's so romantic to be at the beginning once more - until the next eternal September :)

Yeah I'm one of the 90% here, except for the Linux part, FreeBSD man. No problem with that and it would fine with me if it doesn't change. Talking to my peeps here.

you ever feel like tech people embrace new technology first?

you're not wrong, and it's something that needs to be acknowledged, but I can't think of a single innovation on the internet that wasn't dominated by older (when you demarcate 30 as "older") tech people before coming to popularity among the general public

I'm all of those things, but not an active Linux user any more. Definitely been there before though.

I guess I'm all 3. I'm 39, tech enthusiast (tho I've long since given up on working in the industry), and have been using and occasionally contributing to the Linux community since the mid-90s.

My husband is afaik, still just on reddit. idk if he's moved to the official app on his phone (he was a rif guy for years) or what he's doing tbh. But, he's not really a geek 😁

Older tech nerdsn are the pioneers of new and open technologies like fediverse and smolnet, because they are smart enough and care enough about technological principles/philosophies to use them. As the services grow they begin to reach a phase where it attracts reactionary people who are looking actively for alternatives to mainstream services ru n by corporations. This tends to be fanatical people who think capitalism/global economic system bad, or the very vocally queer. Then if it manages to grow even further, say from an exodus of users from a competing service, the normal people finally come and attract more normal people with far more varying discussion interest besides conputer technogy, spewing debates on political/economic ideas, and being gay.

1. 23, so no.
2. Enthusiast, yeah, trying to get into tech for a job, but don't have the CS degree they all want.
3. No, but not by choice. Not running Linux because I buggered my UEFI somehow, and so it won't allow me to boot from USB or switch to my Linux partition.

I think it's because early Millennials are near the peak of techiness, and the sort of person to switch to an open-source, decentralised, somewhat anti-commercial website is also the sort of person to use Linux. I'm early Gen Z, but fit the other two categories.