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[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 77 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It's not the EU yet. It's a group of activists from Denmark. There wasn't even preliminary voting on it yet.
Doesn't mean we need to be complacent of course, but so far nothing happened.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

but so far nothing happened

Things happens frighteningly fast these days. It's not a matter of being complacent; it's a matter of budding things in the nip. Which won't work. Then tirelessly fight back against it.

Unless you've been sleeping under a rock these last few… weeks. Not even months. Some legislation can go from 0 to 100 extremely quickly if left unchecked.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What activists? I need their names, for personal research reasons.

[–] Trihilis@ani.social 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

How the fuck can you be pro censorship/pro big brother? What kind of idiot do you have to be? Do they just get bags of money to spout out this bullshit?

Does having a lot of money exempt you from this shit? I don't get it. I can understand detestable people being pro things that make the poor poor and the rich rich. But this affect everyone both poor and rich. The only one benefiting from this are fascist dictators.

[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's not "Danish activists" but rather the government. As a Dane I know how horny these people are to create a fullblown police/nanny state. SVM (the name for the government) is terrible for all of us. Can't wait to see their voter share drastically diminish at the next election, but clearly they can do a lot of harm first..

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I mean, Danish government comprised of people. And some people there are activists about this particular bullshit, so they're pushing it at every opportunity.
I should've been more specific that it's not just random group of people, but my point was that it's not the decision of the entire EU (or even the entire Danish government)

[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 1 points 5 days ago

The SVM government as a whole is huge on expanding surveillance and the police force - I don't see that it's just a small group of activists within the parties. I'm just glad other EU countries aren't biting on this bs

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Is the EU not subject to GDPR?

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 15 points 5 days ago

Rules are for the people, not governments

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

The EU decides what's GDPR. And it seems recently it decided to not be buggered by those old ideas that are privacy, freedom, etc.

[–] sircac@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is not the Europe I remember...

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 days ago

I know right? Need more style to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsFnLuqHa20

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Thank god my OS doesn't care about EU regulation

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Your OS doesn't, put the messaging apps that your friends/family/coworkers use do.

And no, you can't convince them to switch messager, I tried.

[–] cosmo@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

I, at least, managed to get most of my family to switch. I told them it was the only way they'd get pictures and updates of my son. The one small victory I'm satisfied with.

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Currently, I, my entire Family and everyone I know use Signal. And everyone that doesn't want to, can contact me via Matrix or XMPP, which literally no one ever does, even thought I know a lot of IT and CS people. I keep them as options regardless, just to offer them to people.

I mean, there is also phone, SMS and email of course, but people seem to prefer a new messenger over actually contacting me in any of these ways. And then I'm always like "look, you can choose one of countless ways to contact me, if you like none of them, that's a you-problem".

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago

You don't have to say everything on those apps, tho, just do basic stuff and for longer convos request an encrypted chat app.

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

As long as owning a device that allow full E2E encryption without spyware isn't illegal.

It bears repeating a lot of time : the technology to circumvent these things exist, and will continue to exist. However, there's nothing preventing obtuse lawmakers from making it illegal to own. And then, it's just a matter of catching someone and finding some rooted android phone in his pocket.

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[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'm starting to edit idcaboutprivacy more and more often (and that's not a good thing)

[–] dynamoMaus@feddit.org 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I like the comapirson i heared at Anne Roths(https://systemli.social/@anneroth) talk(German):

You would never say: I don't need free speech because I have nothing to say. Everyone profits from data privacy and free speech and some people are depending on their life on it.

[–] belit_deg@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Dude, I decided to make a personal note with lots of similar links regarding privacy, so that I can provide the source when I discuss these matters with people. But yours in much more thorough - and public. Thanks for saving me a ton of work!

[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

That's dope, glad it could help 🤟

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (3 children)

The fuck is happening over there? Was there lead in the water?

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 32 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Authoritarianism, duh. It’s a global thing.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (4 children)

You're answering the how, but I'm asking for the why. 😅

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

More money. More power. More control over millions of people. Control over what you say? Not their problem; just control everything.

The ability to deny other what they want is a drug to some people; make them feel superior.

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Financial issues among the general populace due to consolidation of wealth > oligarchs create propaganda that brown people are to blame > uneducated masses vote for authoritarians with empty promises

It's the same program human civilisation has know for millenia

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 6 points 6 days ago

Evil people doing evil things because they’re evil. They want more than they have any right to and are willing to throw everyone else under the bus.

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

It's not lead, it's Russians

[–] goatinspace@feddit.org 4 points 6 days ago
[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 5 days ago

Buy EU, am I right?

Geezus...

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