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[–] caboose2006@lemmy.world 140 points 1 week ago (32 children)

I lived in china for 4 years and Winnie has Def never been outlawed. Chinese censorship is much more sophisticated than "hey, that's illegal." There's not a list of pictures or memes or phrases that if you're caught with you'll get a visit from the police. No no no. There are hundreds of thousands of people monitoring social media for the latest "subversive" trends. When a new trend develops that content is blacklisted and just not allowed to be spread. You'll send your friend a picture and it never shows up on their phone. There's no indication on your end that it didn't send or they didn't get it. You can have this content on your phone, the CCP doesn't care. They care about it spreading. And you'll never get in trouble for trying to spread it because the system doesn't allow it to spread.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's actually kinda cool in a techno dyatopian kinda way.

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was going to say horrifying.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago

Yeah it is horrifying but it is a cool concept. Ofc you'll know something is off when your friend doesn't respond to what you sent them.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 week ago (78 children)

definitely beats having fascism spread around unchecked (and even encouraged) like us tech companies.

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[–] _lunar@lemmy.ml 95 points 1 week ago (35 children)

it's a massive fucking lie anyway; anyone who's been to china can tell you they have winnie the pooh merch in every fuckin' shop. winnie the pooh is very popular there.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I think the top comment is the real answer on this.

There is censorship in China, as well as in the west. They just operate very differently.

In the west, outside the US, I think it'd be fairly easy to argue there's more censorship in China. (Even with the pretty depressing clamp down on right to protest, and suppressing of anti-israel speech in many forms happening at the moment)

Equally though, people massively overblow what censorship is actually like in China. I'm not gonna get disappeared next time I go to China just for this comment. Or even if I overtly criticised the government on real-name social media.

tl;dr "China bad!" and "China so good!" are both equally annoying positions to find on the internet.

Reality is nuanced, but that doesn't seem to make people happy.

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[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 83 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm literally in a Chinese hostel right now with a Winnie the pooh mattress.

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You fool, the CCP thought police unit are going to backtrace your photo and execute the hostel owner and their entire bloodline now!!!!

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[–] Carl@hexbear.net 35 points 1 week ago

It's always projection. Even if they're not literally doing the thing that they accuse their opponent of doing yet, the fact that they're making the accusation reveals their intention.

Ah shit, this means they're gonna do everything they made up about Xinjiang (if they're not doing it already at the alligator place)

[–] Dr_Box@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

The many faces of JD Vance

[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 15 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Didn’t this turn out to be fake?

[–] Grimtuck@lemmy.world 140 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, his face really does look like that

[–] tfm@europe.pub 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

More proof he looks like this

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[–] mriswith@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

None of the documentation or statements by US officials are consistent, and appear to include a bit of lying. So people are leaning towards him being at least partially correct in his accusations.

In short, they saw the picture and then began an extended interview where they made a bunch of false claims, and used made up reasons to deny him. Then later claimed they used more reasonable argument, which also doesn't really hold water.

[–] evilcultist@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think US customs said it was because he admitted to using drugs in the past and had photos of a paraphernalia on his phone. He said they ignored that stuff and focused on the photo. So it comes down to whether you think one specific customs employee could potentially see something they don’t like and choose to refuse entry for another reason or that customs is being honest and open about the reason his entry was refused and that the people making the announcement fully understand the situation (including the thoughts of the person that examined the photos).

I feel like the latter is unlikely, but I don’t have enough evidence to say either way. I don’t think drug paraphernalia in a photo or admitting past drug use are good reasons to refuse entry either.

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