this post was submitted on 01 Jul 2025
40 points (97.6% liked)

electoralism

22150 readers
101 users here now

Welcome to c/electoralism! politics isn't just about voting or running for office, but this community is.

Please read the Chapo Code of Conduct and remember...we're all comrades here.

Shitposting in other comms please!

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

They’ll never implement this, ever again.

top 7 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Didn't they pass a law in Florida making rank choice illegal preemptively? Yeah the absolute last thing the oligopoly will allow is democracy. Something something the ballot or the bullet

[–] mrfugu@hexbear.net 3 points 13 hours ago

Missouri did this. They had it on the ballot and it said something along the lines “do you want to ban ranked choice voting and also prevent noncitizens from voting?” Shit pisses me tf off cos it easily tricked anyone who didn’t know what ranked choice was (including my lib father who’s in favor of ranked choice as a concept after I explained it to him)

HOW IS A NON CITIZEN GOING TO VOTE YOU FUCKING IDIOTS. YOU LITERALLY JUST HAD YOUR ID SCANED AND YOUR SIGNATURE SCRUTINIZED LESS THAN TWO MINUTES AGO.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One thing that gives me a little investment in electoralism is that we all know the old quote “if voting changed anything they’d make it illegal.”

Well they’re making it illegal alright.

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 4 points 14 hours ago

Ranked choice voting is also a dead end if the choices are constrained. In Australia we have ranked voting and mandatory voting, but net result is a centre-left and centre-right party who we flip between every 3/6/9 years with some shuffling around of minor parties. If it's isn't made illegal it's made toothless.

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 6 points 23 hours ago

Ohio (or at least Columbus) also has this too

[–] YEP@hexbear.net 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

How would the NYC primary looked different if it wasn't ranked choice. I not sure it actually matters for single seat elections. If you don't rank either of the top 2 candidates it's like your vote won't matter anyways.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Believe it or not but there are many people who would have voted for both Mamdani and Cuomo. They just would rank Cuomintang #1 because they’re sus of a brown person supporting Palestine, but they like Mamdani’s smile so they give him a #2 anyway.

Single choice elections give outsized influence on single issues and make it easier to manipulate the discussion one way or another. All you have to do is build a narrative that Mamdani = bad economics, Mamdani = jihadist, etc. and suddenly his polling collapses even if nobody particularly dislikes him. People are less willing to take a chance if they feel like they can make only one selection.