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Relevant rant:
📺 Why the Democratic Party CANNOT and WILL NOT be Reformed
Democrats would rather lose to a Republican, to a conservative, to a fascist, to Trump, than address the material conditions of the American people.

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[–] DetectiveNo64@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Most of the Democrats are bought off by the same people as the Republicans. All this political theatre is just a show for the illusion of choice. Hopefully more people who can't be bought off get elected, but I doubt it.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago

Hopefully more people will realize that bourgeois democracy is working as intended, and that it cannot be reformed; it must be replaced.

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[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Dinosaurs voting for a meteor

[–] nothingcorporate@lemmy.world 41 points 4 days ago

They sure shut the fuck up about " blue no matter who" real fast.

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 64 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Democrat leadership would choose Trump over Zohran.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

They're lining back up behind Eric Adams, which is functionally the same thing.

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 68 points 5 days ago (4 children)
[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

100% when the Democrats have full control it's all 'golly gee willikers' but the second the Republicans have full control it's like 'everyone loves steak now. EAT IT'

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Damn, if you posted this six months ago, people would have tried to ban you for it.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, I've posted it before now and it makes some people really angry. It seems to be a very common idea that third party voters are somehow worse than Trump voters, as though the Democratic Party somehow have a right to all non-fascist votes.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Well, I'm glad Mamdani won in NYC and zionist liberals can finally put to rest the need to vote straight ticket Democrat.

It is an actual concept??!?!

I have been calling it the ratchet effect for years (because it is a ratchet).

Just happy to see someone else calling it that.

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[–] veganbtw@lemmy.ml 44 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (8 children)

The fact that liberals refuse to read just 100 pages of State and Revolution while insisting that they are having new ideas or that the political environment has somehow changed is by far the most frustrating thing about Lemmy comment sections. I'm an anarchist, someone smeared by Lenin in that book but at least I read it and understand. My disagreement is with the vision and form of the dictatorship of the proletariat and how we can build a new commune, not the need for revolution or insisting that somehow, some way after 175 years of the same discussion voting for reform will work.

I swear Americans have never read a book that wasn't Harry Potter in their lives.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I swear Americans have never read a book that wasn’t Harry Potter in their lives.

Nonsense. Some of them have read The Bible.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Many current elected officials also are huge fans of Austrian autobiographies

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

Nonsense. Some of them have read The Bible.

fewer than the ones who said they have.

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[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 days ago (7 children)

That's not true, they've also read 1984 and thought all "adult" books are gonna be this fucking dreadful and boring so they don't read anymore, they just pretend ~~idiocracy was a documentary~~ 1984 is like, so true, man

[–] veganbtw@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That’s not true, they’ve also read [the wikipedia article about the plot of] 1984 [while furiously arguing about things on the internet they don't understand]

ftfy lol

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[–] AmazingWizard@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 days ago (10 children)

I'm curious to hear the objections and alteratives. I'm not fully versed in anarchist thought.

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[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is anyone understanding yet that the status quo is that elected officials report to a group of influential people who have selected them because they can be controlled and that is all?

It's true that the people with the power would rather their controllable opponent win an election than a candidate in their own party who has ideas of their own.

Until that can be remedied, democracy is truly afflicted by ophiocordyceps unilateralis.

Your vote means NOTHING

Your voice means NOTHING

CARRY ON AS DIRECTED

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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 36 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Ah yes the Corbyn technique.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 28 points 5 days ago (3 children)

They tried the Corbyn technique in the primaries. It didn’t stick, and that’s why they’re freaking out right now.

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[–] devolution@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago (8 children)

The Democrats are afraid Democratic Socialism as it is the anti MAGA—and they should be, the sellouts.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 days ago (9 children)

To be clear, all socialism is democratic. "Democratic Socialism" is just for reformist socialism, and I'd argue Mamdani is just to give New Yorkers a taste of what a better world could look like. You can't actually change capitalism by working within it, though, revolution remains necessary. Mamdani could prove beneficial in normalizing socialism.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

To be precise, revolution is necessary because capitalists will fucking kill you if you get elected and try to do land reforms.

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[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 4 days ago

wow i've never seen this strategy before!

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