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I think progressives never thought about this because we banked on immigration and demographic change allowing us to win culturally and electorally but the issue is immigrants tend to be overwhelmingly male, that is how Trump won actually he won over a lot of Hispanic,Black,Asian and indigenous men who feel humiliated by a new culture, economy and world.

So what can we do rhetorically and policy wise to win more young men over ?

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[–] disconsented@lemmy.nz 32 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The reality of this all is rather complex but I think the greatest issue is fundamentally the empathy gap. Men's issues are not recognized as issues, they're just dismissed out of hand. I'm talking about the easy things like the sentencing and education gaps.

We need to start the discourse that these are very real problems that are worth addressing.

Another problem I personally run into is how it's acceptable to discriminate against men, "kill all men" is acceptable but "kill all race" isn't. Neither should be and we don't recognize it as a problem, instead defaulting to arguments that are considered horrendous in another context.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Every time I have heard someone say "kill all men" I have immediately dismissed everything else they are saying because their logic is just as rotten as other racists/sexists

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[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago (14 children)

Christ - some of these replies are exactly what a lot of women talk about when we say that Lemmy has a misogyny problem.

Blokes really don't recognize how much harder shit actually is for women, overall. It would be lovely to just sit on a bench for 5 mins without a stranger coming to chat me up, or if people would stop crediting men for my work when they don't even ask for it.

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[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago

Reframe spending as stimulating the economy.

Create jobs through a green new deal that allows for upeard mobility for the motivated. Small business grants.

Create tax incentives for, endorse and give loam grants to businesses that provide workers with a share of a company. Whether co-op type thing or convoluted stock share program.

Young men want to matter, and they want to see the results of their effort.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Do what you say you're going to do when you get elected. Quit finding just enough no votes and making excuses. You promise, we vote, you don't deliver. Then you ask "why does no one want to vote for us? We promised to be marginally less terrible than our opponents!"

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[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Start by no longer telling men who have done nothing wrong they are responsible for the misdeeds of others. It breeds resentment and closes people to anything else you have to say.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Rich old dudes fuck every everyone over...

21 years old kid gets the blame...

US "liberals" are a useful tools of the regime who are too smug to figure out that they are part of the problem

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 38 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Be nice and respectful to them and masculinity. Like "It's masculine to protect the oppressed"

Don't belittle anyone for that matter, such as based on race, gender or religions, even if you're upset at that grouping.

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[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Legit I think it's to shift the focus away from helping other people for the sake of being nice and onto uniting together to fight a common enemy - the bosses, corporations, etc. Dale the machinist from Alabama isn't going to go to the protest to protect trans latinx PoC out of the kidness of his own heart but he might if he realizes it's part of a larger project to go out to take back his rights from the people fucking him over, and fuck over his boss. Young men are drawn to masculinity and militaristic language right now, and left wing politics can be easily framed in those terms. Yes, being good to other people should be good in its own right but a lot of people don't see it that way and we need to get them on our side too.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe stop hating their guts..

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[–] Emtity_13@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

for most they are very disconnected from reality, just what they see on the internet, being more so raised by it then even their parents. And social media is very good at targeting those more vunrable people becuse social media thrives off of discord

[–] Today@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (3 children)

As a mom of men, it has always concerned me that, while we were supporting our girls, we left our boys to flounder a bit. We spent so much time telling girls that they could do anything and they could be 'just as good as the boys' and talking to women about glass ceilings and 'don't let the man keep you down.' What did we tell our boys or rather what did they hear?

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[–] That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Male stereotypes have to be culturally broken first. Men are being taught that showing any emotions other than anger and hate is effeminate. They're being taught that empathy is weakness, that education is stupidity, that freedom is slavery.

Everything that makes men human is being stripped away, leaving a husk of burning hate awaiting marching orders. They need to reconnect to humanity.

[–] IloveyouMF@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I am going to be honest, I think women need to be a a part of this. We are used to being right in regards to gender conflict because usually we are but one thing I agree with men on is that every woman says they want men to share their feelings more but many women lose respect for a man they see as weak.

Bell Hooks talks a lot about this so you can go read her.

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