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And no, I'm not talking about pirating on the internet, I'm talking about getting your internet connection to the outside world without paying or having a subscription or license. Something like a mesh network with your neighbors with the exit node being one person's high-speed fiber line, or even an exit node through a free public wifi network that you've hidden a little repeater device within range of... something like that could be interesting. I've been thinking lately of a world where decentralized networks become more common, and where people can freely use the internet without paying an ISP. What are your thoughts?

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[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 13 points 1 day ago

I'm sharing an internet connection with my neighbors for these reasons. In germany, we have "freifunk" which is just what you're explaining I think. I would definitely love to maximize this though.

[–] brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Nope, I prefer being able to run my own network router, open/close my own ports, block ads on the network, hopefully get as much bandwidth as I can, etc. so it's usually better for me to subscribe to my own internet.

... But since you bring it up, coincidentally I currently live on a street with shops/restaurants on the main floor under me. And all their wifi networks are visible from my apartment... so technically yeah, if I go through the trouble of collecting all their wifi passwords I could just hang out on their networks for free internet. Internet probably wouldn't be great and not very private without a VPN but for free web browsing it should work.

[–] ThorrJo@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 day ago

Pirating wifi doesn't preclude any of this. See also the GL.iNet devices, such as the GL-MT3000.

There are options out there to utilize multiple wifi networks at the same time, you probably wouldn't have what you need to get a fancy 'similar to enterprise level' solution going, but there are a bunch out there with the goal of using multiple networks purely for speed.

[–] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Kind of I guess. Didn't have home internet so I would park my car in a home depot parking lot with a laptop torrenting off the public wifi and then walk the rest of the way to work.

[–] ThorrJo@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago

WiFi 6 has made this a lot more viable than it used to be. I've done a fair amount of parking lot leeching and new gear is worth it.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

I may or may not be using P2P devices to share my Internet with all my neighbors.

But I also paid to have the neighborhood wired with fiber for internet.

[–] haych@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago

Not exactly, but when I was in student dorms, the day when the contract ended if you booked for next year you paid basically nothing and got the highest tier of speeds, I assume its a bug in their system or something because its only for that 1 day and they dont advertise it as a special offer.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 1 day ago

In my previous home I was possibly using the wifi of my neighbors sometimes. Just for fun. Since they left the default password on it. I could even login into their router once on wifi. And open ports or whatever. That I didn't do.

[–] zout@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

About 20 years ago, there was only dial-up internet available in my street. My parents lived about 200 m away from me in another street, and they could get ADSL. So I set up a wireless bridge to them, and it worked surprisingly well after some tweaking. Kept it running for a few years, eventually got my own connection because one day my dad called me because he needed the router password. Turns out he was also sharing the connection with his neighbour who was running an internet radio station.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

I built a Pwnagotchi but I haven't cracked any of it's handshakes yet.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 2 points 1 day ago

I did some wardriving a long time ago but never used those internet connections. And I shared my connection before and had a Freifunk router. With the neighbours not so much. I'm mostly nice to them and ask before borrowing their stuff.

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