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>Be Putin
>Invade Ukraine to prevent NATO expansion.
>2 more countries join NATO.
>MFW
Ehhhh, it was always just an excuse, just like all the other reasons that they invented. Nazis, NATO, will of the people, whatever bullshit he came up with, the real reason was always because there's was money to be made by owning their land.
I know, it's just so fun to engage on that level because the logic is truly incomprehensible. Like pretend the US or NATO actually wanted to invade Russia or whatever they're trying to imply by saying that shit. They're feeling a million times better about it now than 10 years ago since Russia has been revealed as a paper tiger, with soviet vehicle and ammo stocks depleted and nearly a million casualties for a chunk of land, not to mention the fact that they got counter-invaded and it took 7 MONTHS to recapture their own fucking land. I really want to hammer this home. They couldn't defend their own territory from an incursion of an estimated 10-12,000 Ukrainians for SEVEN. MONTHS. An actual superpower would bowl through to Moscow faster than the vatniks thought they would take Kiev.
In our pretend land where someone actually wants to invade Russia for some reason, they're gong to identify the fact that they could break the entire Russian offensive (probably the entire military) with a single carrier group, and do that.
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I wonder if they did the math on the cost of this war vs the benefits of the money to be made? Is it still worth it as this point? Sunk cost fallacy at this point?
I wonder if they did the math on the cost of this war vs the benefits of the money to be made
If they did, they are shit awful at math.
I think putin just got senile and wanted to restore the glory of the soviet union tbh. People get really weird when they get old.
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Even historians in 1000 years will not comprehend this brilliant move by mr. president, in eyes of those uninitiated to the complex art of geopolitics it may seem like the dumbest blunder.
To be fair, the Russians do have an answer to that: Western secret services like the CIA have been infiltrating those countries' governments and/or orchestrated anti-Russian, pro-Western coups.
To be fair yet again, that answer is a load of bullshit, those democratic governments have plenty of genuine popular support, the people in these countries are anti-Russian because of personal experiences with the Russian state, not just because of propaganda, and the USA, while influential to an outsized degree, is obviously not just "calling the shots" on the entire western world. Things would look very different if they were.
To continue to be fair, that whole claim is just DARVOing about what Russian spies are doing to the west.
They spent two decades saying this and then installed a puppet dictator in america lmao
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And the thing is, many European countries don't even want to join NATO specifically, they want to join the EU-- a non-military, supranational organisation. However, the Russian government see the EU and NATO as one and the same, even though many EU members are not NATO members themselves and don't want to be.
Western secret services like the CIA have been infiltrating those countriesβ
Yeah, that's serious cultural appropriation against the russians.
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The Russian state uses nationalism to distract their own people from the state's own corruption. It is a tried and tested obfuscation to maintain power and control over the masses.