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This megathread's topic is inspired by our lovely news regular, @Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net, who talks often about the conditions inside El Salvador and gives nuanced and informative takes.

As the Trump administration continues to make foreign policy blunders that would make even the staunchest anti-imperialist accelerationist blush - and we are barely three months in! - it's interesting to compare and contrast his policies of incompetent imperialist and domestic management to the dictators in other countries.

Bukele is somewhat unique among fascists, in that he seems to not hide - and seems to even admit to - his evil, self-describing as the world's "coolest dictator". El Salvador has no particular shortage of prominent fascists in their history, but one major example is Maximiliano Martínez, who led the country over much of the 1930s and the early 1940s. He was responsible the deaths of many thousands of communists and indigneous people, and yet joined World War 2 on the side of the Allies and against the Nazis.

The comparisons between Martínez and Bukele - and, indeed, between Bukele and Trump - in terms of their impact on minority groups are slowly growing as world attention is being drawn to the country. The recent meeting between Bukele and Trump has shifted a spotlight onto El Salvador's crime policy; the internal conditions of El Salvador's prisons are genuinely monstrous. One gets a similar feeling as when reading descriptions of the conditions of Holocaust victims in German concentration camps. Trump has made statements to the effect that he want a similar crime crackdown inside the United States, and I certainly believe that he wants this (ICE is already just kidnapping people off the streets into vans), but his administration has been so chaotic and mismanaged that it's difficult to determine whether this will be an interest he rapidly drops in favor of some other hair-brained scheme.


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Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
Simplicius, who publishes on Substack. Like others, his political analysis should be soundly ignored, but his knowledge of weaponry and military strategy is generally quite good.
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Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

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https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
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https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

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Some combat footage for the weekend from Russia’s special military operation.

A collection of recent Russian drone strikes on Kiev regime military equipment and positions: https://odysee.com/@Support4Z:b/%F0%9F%93%BD%EF%B8%8F-A-%F0%9F%87%AC%F0%9F%87%A7-%F0%9F%87%AB%F0%9F%87%B7,--A-new-compilation-of-drone-strikes!!:9

Russian FAB-500 glide bombs pound enemy positions in the Kiev-occupied DPR settlement of Bogatyr: https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/05/01/1288688.html

Plus, a bonus video: yesterday, an Odessan woman shot a Ukrainian Neo-Nazi in the ass with a pistol: https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/05/01/1287896.html

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 8 points 48 minutes ago (1 children)

Trump Signs Controversial Rare Earths Deal With Ukraine, Deepening U.S. Resource Control - Telesur English

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Trump’s rare earths agreement with Ukraine cements U.S. access to critical minerals, raising concerns over sovereignty, peace prospects, and the marginalization of Ukrainian interests as Washington acknowledges Russia’s hold over Crimea.

The long-anticipated minerals agreement between the United States and Ukraine was signed this week, granting Washington preferential access to Ukraine’s rare earths and other valuable resources. The deal, championed by President Donald Trump, comes amid shifting geopolitical winds, with the U.S. administration openly recognizing Russia’s annexation of Crimea and casting President Volodymyr Zelensky’s resistance to peace talks as an obstacle to regional stability.

For months, the Biden-Trump administration pushed Kyiv to cede control over its critical mineral resources, framing the agreement as a pathway to Ukraine’s reconstruction and a means for the U.S. to recoup military aid expenditures. The final text grants the U.S. sweeping rights to exploit up to 55 minerals, with provisions for further expansion, and establishes a joint fund to manage revenues from extraction. The White House has not concealed its intentions: Trump himself described the pact as a “great deal for us,” emphasizing the expected windfall from rare earths and other materials vital to U.S. industry and military technology.

However, Ukrainian negotiators were forced to accept terms under the shadow of ongoing conflict and mounting pressure from Washington, which made further military assistance contingent on the deal’s completion. The agreement’s timing-coinciding with U.S. overtures to Moscow and tacit acceptance of Russia’s hold over Crimea-has left Zelensky politically isolated and facing criticism from sectors of Ukrainian society that see the deal as a surrender of economic sovereignty.

Left-wing analysts across Latin America have long warned of the dangers posed by U.S. interventionism and resource extraction deals that echo neocolonial patterns. The Ukraine agreement fits this mold, with Washington leveraging its military and financial power to secure privileged access to strategic assets. While U.S. officials tout the pact as a win-win, critics point out that the supposed “rare earth bonanza” in Ukraine is largely speculative, with little evidence of significant, easily exploitable deposits. Instead, the real beneficiaries may be U.S. corporations and defense contractors, while Ukraine is left with environmental risks and uncertain economic gains.

Moreover, the deal undermines Ukraine’s ability to chart an independent path toward peace. By tying resource revenues to U.S. interests and acknowledging Russian control over Crimea, Washington is effectively dictating the terms of Ukraine’s future, sidelining popular demands for genuine sovereignty and self-determination.

The minerals agreement is being hailed in Washington as a strategic masterstroke, securing critical supply chains and countering China’s dominance in rare earth markets. Yet for many in the global South, it is a stark reminder of how resource-rich nations are pressured to trade away their wealth in exchange for security guarantees and fleeting promises of reconstruction.

True peace cannot be built on the foundations of economic dependency and external control. The U.S.-Ukraine deal, far from fostering stability, risks entrenching new forms of domination and deepening divisions within Ukraine itself. With Zelensky marginalized and peace talks stalled, the prospect of a just resolution to the conflict appears more distant than ever-while the machinery of extractivism grinds on.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 5 points 25 minutes ago

The mineral deal makes an agreed peace deal impossible. It essentially functions as an Article 5 NATO clause because the moment the US becomes reliant on a strategic resource it will break all known red lines to protect it. Putin knows this and he knows that his best prospects are to dismantle Zelensky's government (directly or otherwise) and ensure the next regime throws the deal out the window.

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 13 points 50 minutes ago (1 children)

Cuban Doctors Prevent Collapse of Grenada’s Health System: PM Mitchell - Telesur English

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In an interview with teleSUR, the Grenadian leader analized contemporary development issues. On Wednesday, Grenada’s Prime Minister, Dickon Mitchell, gave teleSUR an extensive interview in which he discussed contemporary global and regional issues. An excerpt from the interview is presented below.

teleSUR: As Grenada is a member of the Caribbean Community (CARICOM), how do you view African-Caribbean relations?

PM Mitchell: We have been very deliberate in recent years in pursuing closer relations between CARICOM and Africa—not just multilaterally, but also, in Grenada’s case, bilaterally with our brothers and sisters on the African continent.

Most of the Caribbean is a part of the African diaspora. Our foreparents were forcibly taken from Africa and brought to the Caribbean by European colonizers to support the plantation economy. Most of all, our foreparents were enslaved in that process. They fought for centuries to free themselves.

Even after the emancipation of slaves and the abolition of slavery in the Caribbean and the Americas, the legacy of discrimination and colonization continues. Many of the challenges we face today are a direct result of this history. Within CARICOM, we’ve been championing the cause of reparations. We’ve also engaged with the African Union and asked for their support in that cause.

We also recognize that the African continent itself has suffered tremendously from colonization and the arbitrary partitioning of its lands, which has created numerous challenges for countries across the continent. They face significant logistical difficulties in terms of trade and transportation among themselves. Many parts of Africa remain underdeveloped. As many as 600 million Africans still lack access to electricity. As Africa’s diaspora, we believe it’s important for us to support the continent’s development agenda, to advocate alongside them, and to insist that Africans and those in the diaspora be treated with fairness and respect, just like any other race or ethnicity worldwide.

So we have been pursuing very deliberate and strategic relations with Africa. In Grenada’s case, we’ve entered into visa waiver agreements so that Africans do not need visas to visit Grenada, and Grenadians can visit many African countries visa-free. We’ve also participated in many trade and investment events on the continent.

Grenada, along with several members of the Organization of Eastern Caribbean States (OECS) and CARICOM, has signed a partnership agreement with the African Export-Import Bank (AFREXIM). They’ve hosted regional trade and investment fora in Guyana, Barbados, and the Bahamas. Grenada will be hosting one on the 20th and 29th of July.

We expect to welcome significant business and political leaders to foster closer trade and investment ties between Africa and the Caribbean—and ultimately, between Africa, the Caribbean, and Central and South America. These larger markets offer vast potential. Sadly, there is still very little trade between Africa and South or Central America and the Caribbean. Reversing this historical trend—where we all look north instead of to each other—is key. That’s why we are strongly championing greater South-South cooperation.

We see the relationship as growing and deepening. With social media and the Internet, we can learn about each other much more quickly. We’re encouraging African influencers to visit the Caribbean and Caribbean influencers to visit Africa. African culture is increasingly being respected—through music, dance, fashion, and food. Culture is a vital bridge that helps break down the barriers between us.

It’s something we’ve pursued deliberately. I probably wear more African fashion now than Western fashion. It’s all part of the effort to level the playing field and eliminate discrimination and the misinformation often spread about Africa. We believe this will benefit all of us in the region.

teleSUR: What is your opinion on the mass deportations of migrants from the U.S.?

PM Mitchell: The U.S. is a nation built on immigration. But it’s not just about the U.S.—I think the world is facing a challenge we need to confront: xenophobia. We must ask ourselves, why do people migrate? And what role have we played in creating the conditions that lead to migration?

Whether it’s North America’s policies toward Latin America and the Caribbean, or Europe’s policies toward North Africa—these are all factors that must be addressed. Take countries like Iraq or Libya, for example—Western countries have played, unfortunately, destabilizing roles. When you create chaos, hunger, and insecurity, people will inevitably want to migrate.

In South and Central America, the U.S. has failed to invest meaningfully in its own neighborhood—in stable governments, healthcare, education, and fair trade. As a result, instability rises, and people are driven to move. To be honest, no walls and no number of deportations will stop human beings from migrating if they feel unsafe or threatened. That’s a reality we all must face.

We need to have sensible conversations about improving people’s lives. We need to work together to ensure that their home countries are stable, that sovereignty is respected, and that there are opportunities in education, healthcare, infrastructure, and trade. Otherwise, the migration issues we’re seeing now will only intensify. I’m convinced that walls and deportations won’t solve the problem. In fact, more people will come. History has shown this time and again.

When Western countries needed help—such as during World Wars—they recruited people from the Caribbean and elsewhere. Yet now, decades later, they often seek to deport the descendants of those very people who fought to protect their freedoms. There are also clear racial and ethnic overtones in these migration debates. Many times, fearmongering around migration is rooted in racism and disproportionately targets Black and Brown people.

It’s up to us to continue advocating for our people. At the same time, we must also encourage our citizens to remain and help build their own countries. You’re never going to be treated better in another country.

Despite our challenges, we must face them head-on. We often say, “No place is sweeter than home.” So yes, we must give our people the opportunity to thrive at home—with better education, healthcare, and jobs. That’s easier when there is less interference and more international cooperation and support.

teleSUR: The U.S. bans Cuban doctors. What is their situation in Grenada?

PM Mitchell: We responded to the U.S. queries and openly shared information about our program with the Cuban people. Grenada, perhaps more than any other English-speaking Caribbean island, has benefited immensely from a close and fraternal relationship with the Cuban government and people. Our international airport was largely built by Cubans. They even shed blood on our soil during the events of 1983.

Many of our professionals—engineers, doctors—have studied in Cuba on scholarships. In fact, in our current cabinet, both the Minister of Finance and the Minister of Foreign Affairs were educated in Cuba.

This strong Grenada-Cuba relationship is not just governmental—it’s deeply personal. Many of our citizens owe their careers and health to Cuban support. If we didn’t have Cuban professionals in our healthcare system, especially specialist doctors, it would likely collapse.

That’s the reality. Our Cuban brothers and sisters live freely here, and in some cases are even paid better than Grenadian professionals—because we must cover not only salaries but also housing and other support.

So we had nothing to hide. We showed our U.S. counterparts that this is a legitimate program that benefits our people. Similar programs exist across OECS and CARICOM. We’ve always staunchly defended Cuba’s right to self-determination.

Sometimes resistance to Cuba seems deliberate; sometimes it stems from ignorance. But we know Cuba has always stood by us. They’ve endured decades of hardship, particularly due to the blockade.

We continue to call for the end of the blockade and for Cuba to be removed from the U.S. list of state sponsors of terrorism. We do so without hesitation, because we’ve seen Cuba’s solidarity firsthand.

Cuba has supported Black nations in Africa when no one else did. We won’t forget that. So yes, we stand in solidarity with Cuba, and we believe dialogue, not isolation, leads to real change.

Isolation has never worked. Openness, exchange, and mutual respect are the keys to better human relations. These are the values the world needs more than ever.

teleSUR: The U.S. has imposed tariffs globally. What about the 10% tariff on Grenada?

PM Mitchell: We can’t dictate another country’s trade or economic policy. But as a small, open economy, we understand the value of trade and connectivity. We believe the more trade there is, the better the quality of life and the broader the choices for our citizens.

From our standpoint, a tariff-based policy is unlikely to be successful. It’s more likely to cause harm—especially to ordinary citizens. If you increase the cost of goods for everyday people, even while government revenue increases, you end up with a rich government and poor citizens.

We prefer a situation where the people are wealthy—even if the government is not—because the true strength of a country lies in its citizens. So while we cannot dictate U.S. policy, we believe that in a globally connected economy, what we really need is more trade—not barriers like tariffs. Tariffs are outdated. What the world needs now is more cooperation and fewer restrictions.

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 5 points 49 minutes ago

Article Part 2

teleSUR: How did the people of Grenada respond to the death of Francis, the first Latin American pope?

PM Mitchell: At first, there was a sense of shock and surprise, even though people were aware he had been unwell. Having seen him on Easter Sunday mass, few expected him to pass away so soon after. But perhaps, in keeping with his personality, he had one final public appearance before his departure from this life.

His death was met with widespread sadness. Grenada remains predominantly Roman Catholic. That weekend, many festive harvests were planned, but several were canceled by the bishop. Pope Francis will be missed. The country took pride in the fact that he came from our region.

[–] Zascoco@hexbear.net 27 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Algerian TV: “A desperate attempt to undermine Algeria’s unity and identity by the artificial state of the Emirates”

"A dangerous media escalation by the artificial state of the Emirates crosses all red lines regarding the unity and identity of the Algerian people.

A dangerous targeting of the ancient principles of the Algerian people and an attempt to cast doubt on their origins and deep history.

The attack of the artificial UAE state on Algeria, which has a history of resistance, is nothing but a desperate attempt by hybrid entities that lack roots and real sovereignty.

The UAE is turning into a factory for sedition and the dissemination of ideological toxins, exploiting the ideological merchant in the history market. Algeria, which has sacrificed millions of martyrs in defense of its unity, will not submit to provocations and will not forgive any attack on its principles and the foundations of its identity and affiliation. Media incitement that undermines the identity of the Algerian people will not go unpunished, both morally and popularly.

Attacking the unity of the Algerian people is not just a media insult, but an aggression against values, sovereignty, and a common destiny. A stab wound that only comes to gain more loyalty from those who are worried about Algeria's stability and progress.

Algeria will not stand weeping over the ruins of the support and assistance it provided to the artificial statelet, but as the proud do, it will respond in kind."

Tensions have been rising for a while between algeria and the emirates it's the first time that state media reacted this strongly.

Link: https://www.echoroukonline.com/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA%D9%84%D9%81%D8%B2%D9%8A%D9%88%D9%86-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%B1%D9%8A-%D9%85%D8%AD%D8%A7%D9%88%D9%84%D8%A9-%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%B3%D8%A9-%D9%84%D8%B6%D8%B1%D8%A8

[–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 hour ago

For anyone wondering what the UAE did exactly: an Algerian said in an interview on an UAE channel that the Amazigh aren't real and are a false identity made up by the zionists and Fr*nce.
Hate speech

[–] whatdoiputhere12@hexbear.net 28 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Did anything become of that attack by India? I remember Pakistan giving a warning of an attack in 48 hours or something

[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 16 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I assume both sides got what they wanted, which is to shore up support at home.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 31 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago) (2 children)

Middle East Spectator (Telegram):

Israel is currently bombing dozens of targets across Syria in key HTS gang strongholds such as Idlib, Hama, Homs, and Damascus. This is likely to take advantage of the current tension between Jolani's forces and Druze communities in Southern Syria, some of whom have appealed to Israel for military support to remain autonomous of Damascus.

Reports of Turkish jets being scrambled to confront the Israelis, exchanging verbal threats in aerial standoffs. Meanwhile Russian jets have scrambled from their air base in Lataika.

A Turkish TB-2 drone was scrambled to monitor syrian airspace.

[–] departee@hexbear.net 9 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 3 points 25 minutes ago

Zionist autocorrect :(

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 9 points 1 hour ago

It would be so funny if NATO just fell apart because Israel attacked Turkey and NATO did nothing lol

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 44 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The 'Gaza Freedom Flotilla' aid organization has announced that approximately six hours ago, one of its ships was attacked twice by Israeli drones while in international waters near Malta There are reportedly 30 aid workers onboard.

This is the second time since the outbreak of the war on Gaza that Israel has sabotaged the aid organization’s plans to deliver aid, the first being in April 2024, and the fifth instance overall.

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[–] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 14 points 3 hours ago

Our well meaning 'sabotage' of boats.

Their wholesale terrorism on shipping.

thinking-about-it

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 34 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 21 minutes ago) (3 children)

brits yearn for the commodity trader rule

also, how come they manage to break two party duopoly, while seppos are just "meh meh cannot be done"

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[–] Boise_Idaho@hexbear.net 4 points 1 hour ago

So Tory seats went to Reform (-557 vs +570) while Labour seats split between LD and Greens (-160 vs +129+40)?

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 6 points 1 hour ago
[–] whatdoiputhere12@hexbear.net 12 points 3 hours ago

interesting to see Lib Dems second

but fucking Christ…. doomer

[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 51 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (4 children)

US pulls out of formal peace talks between Ukraine and Russia

Speaking to Fox News, Mr Vance said President Trump had brought both sides to the negotiating table, but that the US would no longer lead efforts to mediate peace.

“It’s not going anywhere… it’s not going to end any time soon,” he said. “It would now be up to them to come to an agreement and stop this brutal, brutal conflict.”

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 37 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

The US put offers on the table for both Ukraine and Russia. Ukraine gave in at the last minute, signing the natural resource extraction deal on the last day of April, the last day they'd have to sign it. Ukraine ended up signing onto basically the same deal Zelenskyy was offered from February 26-28. Ukraine had to give in to what the US offered, as it's impossible for all aspects of the Ukrainian state to function without US support, from the military, to the civil sector, to energy and electricity. Ukraine had no choice.

Whatever offer the US gave Russia to do with recognising Russian territory territory claims in Crimea and the four oblasts, Russia did not accept before May 1st evidently. The problem here was Russia does not fully control these four oblasts yet, including large parts of Donetsk. So Russia would effectively be asking for territory that they do not control yet, while the US would be focused on freezing the conflict at the current frontlines there. The US was not prepared to give territory currently under Ukrainian control to Russia, and Russia was not prepared to freeze the conflict along the current frontline, an impasse that could not be resolved. Russia is only going to accept peace on their terms, which include full control of the four oblasts. The US was not going to give that to them.

Russia played along by announcing unilateral temporary ceasefires at key dates (Easter April 20, Victory day May 9), but evidently this was not enough to keep the US onboard. And despite temper tantrums by Zelenskyy and Ukrainian nationalists initially, the Ukrainian Armed Forces did largely follow the ceasefire on April 20th, they didn't take the bait to continue fighting while Russia was offering a truce. This was important to signal to the US that they are prepared to go along with any plans they had.

The situation is quite absurd as the US is a party to this war, not a neutral mediator.

[–] companero@hexbear.net 23 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Russia already "legally" considers the entirety of the four oblasts as Russian territory. If they agreed to freeze the current borders it would technically mean territorial concessions to Ukraine, in their eyes.

The most interesting part is that, theoretically, this means they won't stop until they cross the Dnieper in at least two places, Kherson and Zaporizhia. And if they cross that big river...

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 12 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Russia already "legally" considers the entirety of the four oblasts as Russian territory. If they agreed to freeze the current borders it would technically mean territorial concessions to Ukraine, in their eyes.

Yeah, it's in the Russian constitution, but the problem is that they don't fully control them, yet at least.

Taking Kherson is going to be a massive operation, unless Ukraine completely collapses, it's a long ways away.

[–] companero@hexbear.net 18 points 4 hours ago

If Russia had truly run out of steam, they would have taken whatever peace deal they could get from the US. They're in it for the long haul now, which means they must have a plan for victory.

[–] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They do not "need" to reconquer Kherson. They will trade Sumy or Kharkiv for it. Although Its possible they annex parts of Kharkiv until the Oskil river for defense purposes, the donbass is very exposed otherwise.

[–] companero@hexbear.net 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Personally I don't see Ukraine ever willingly giving up Kherson. It's too powerful of a symbol for Ukrainian nationalists. Not to mention its strategic importance, should another conflict happen in the future.

[–] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Russia could always attack through Belarus, I doubt they would keep Kherson if Kiev or Rivne were under russian occupation. Anyways, they will only come to the table, when such pride issues are no longer viable in the first place.

[–] BreathThroughTheTube@hexbear.net 11 points 3 hours ago

Yep basically there will never be peace until the Ukrainians remove their nationalists from power and cede on their “pride”. Their “pride” is the entire problem here

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 23 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Trump decided Ukraine isn't going to exist in like five years I guess, wonder if he understands that resource deal doesn't work if Russia controls those resources.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 30 points 5 hours ago (9 children)

the resource deal trades Ukraine's natural resources for continued military assistance. This entire charade was never serious, Trump never intended to make peace, it was to pressure the Ukrainians into giving the US its natural resources in exchange for their continued military support.

Trump doesn't want to end the war, he wants to get more out of it. He's not an anti-imperialist, he's an imperialist. Before the war wasn't meeting his ROI requirements, now it is, so it's worth fighting. All wars are simple calculations for imperialists.

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[–] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 7 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

I doubt russia will conquer all of it. At worst they will lose Odessa and everything east of the Dnieper.

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