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[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Have 4 kids.

5k is couch money when you have kids. It'll maybe take care of a few months of daycare. Now if you're on gov assistance and make next to nothing? This will be great, but don't expect to get a job or climb out of poverty with 5k. A kid will eat that up super fast.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 days ago

More ineffective Band-Aids.

The core issues never get addressed. Prices keep going up.

And those issues will get worse under a corpo like Trump.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (6 children)

daycare costs $2k a month? are they training the kids to be astronauts?

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[–] VeryVito@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Are these those welfare babies Republicans always screeeched about?

[–] Barley_Man@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Spending money on families hasn't been shown to help in any way whatsoever in increasing the birth rate. You have countries with close to free day care and generous monthly child subsidies with the same or even much lower fertility rate as countries that give just about nothing at all. I still support these kinds of policies just for the sake of helping families and their kids, but doing it for the only purpose of helping the fertility rate is futile. Honestly I don't think the government can do much at all to help the fertility rate. It's a cultural issue first and foremost. And the government can't (and I think shouldn't!) do much to change the culture of our society. You see people living in poverty with 9 kids just because they belong to a certain religious or ethnic group who values children above all else. That's the main issue. How important is children to the culture? Is it prestigious to be a dad or a mom? Is personal success measured in how you've built your family or is success measured in how much money you make?

[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

It's a work culture issue. People need free time to socialise meaningfully. Notice how Iceland and France are as high or higher than Colombia?

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[–] ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

As an atheist baby-eater, sign me up. I could have a lovely dinner party for $5K on Hallowen every year and not have to find a main course.

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