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[–] Soup@lemmy.world 78 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We’re all animals, whether or not we want to believe that is simply a fact. And on top of that we are stressed the fuck out which pushes people, to vary degrees, back towards monkey brain. I consider myself pretty self-aware and therapy has proven that but oh man did my last job do a lot to leave me defensive and short with even the people I care about.

There’s that phrase “you can’t logic someone out of an argument they didn’t logic themselves into” that very well encapsulates the idea that trying to force some higher intelligence, some emotionless, robotic reasoning onto people does very little to actually help(though it should help more than it does and I’m disappointed in people running on pure, angry emotion all the same).

We need to stop acting like we aren’t the way that we are, it just hurts us. I’m not saying we need to excuse bad behaviour because, unlike wild animals, we have a great capacity to know better and adjust, but we do need to be more ok with the reality of ourselves.

[–] Drewmeister@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

To add to this, you can do this to yourself as well. Reward yourself for the right behavior, tell yourself your did a good job, etc. It's (I'm guessing) harder than extrinsic motivation, but it still works. Take advantage of having a stupid lizard brain under all the stuff that makes us human.

I feel like this was ultimately the point of the love yourself movement. I don't know how you could convince yourself to love yourself without conditioning yourself to do it, too.

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[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 day ago

sounds like they treat their partner better than most people do, honestly.

[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

IDK as a guy this doesn't seem weird at all. If anything, it sounds like she likes him and is willing to put in work to make him feel more comfortable and make the relationship successful. She doesn't really use any dehumanizing language and the way she connects the dots between what she notices in dogs and her date seems very empathetic. If anything, the guy's lucky to have found someone with so much emotional intelligence and hopefully she's getting out what she's putting in

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is literally how I want to be treated.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

somehow I could tell even before you said it

[–] inbeesee@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Friend is jealous of dogboy

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[–] yardy_sardley@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

She seems to have only the best intentions, but I can't help but feel a little creeped out. She's using a psychological trick to leverage this man's trauma in order to get him to behave in a certain way, and she's doing it without his knowledge or consent. I think that's dishonest at the very least, and I don't think building the foundation of your relationship on calculated manipulation is going to lead to a good outcome.

I'd even go as far as saying her emotional intelligence creates a power imbalance in the relationship, which she is deliberately exploiting.

[–] mzesumzira@leminal.space 9 points 1 day ago

I agree that what she does is manipulative and condescending even with the best intentions (paving the road to hell and all that), but I have issues with the use of "emotional intelligence" here.

An emotional intelligent person does NOT do this kind of shit on purpose.
They meet the other person where they're at and on the same level, they communicate honestly, they don't presume to educate or manage them.

I'd say she comes off more as emotionally stunted, she has no idea know how to relate with her partner as an equal.

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No sex or kinkiness needed. Just take me home, animals are treated better than humans ;_;

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 35 points 1 day ago

I lucked out, I have someone to train me with snacks too uwu

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I mean this simply gets into the ethics of manipulation. Ultimately, it comes down to choosing happiness.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gotta say, this smells a little like a top tier troll post. That out of the way, I also would like someone to carry around peanut M&Ms for me.

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Insert "it should've been me" meme here.

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago

The lady has training with animals and is applying what she learnt to make a guy at ease with her... I'd say the friend is the asshole here. You do the best you can with what you got.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

This is just poorly thought out. You offer dessert and to pay, then classify it as food motivation. I mean it could be that he's happy you're paying, or happy you want to be out longer. If anything, he just ate, so food motivation would be at its lowest.

You're taking an animal that isn't as complex as humans or even has a concept of society, and trying to apply that to a person in a relationship. I think the thought is there, but the conclusions are a bit flawed.

[–] Redfox8@mander.xyz 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We're only more complex in that we have language systems so can assess situations in a more detailed way. The majority of the time we have pretty much the same instincts and responses to stimuli to many other animals because, in short, it takes less energy/effort. Being able to conceive society, something canines can do, doesn't stop other natural instincts. There is a level of simplification, yes, but this is a social media post, not a scientific study so it won’t explain every minute detail!

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Many people apparently loving this, I see it as a red flag. She's manipulative and I'd second guess every action she'd take from the day I noticed it

Edit: funny that people are down voting this, I guess they want to be manipulated by their partners.

Take it from someone who divorced a manipulative partner, it's not cool them all the time lying pushing and manipulating you to be the way they want you to be.

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Someone wouldn't like watching House M.D. if this is making them feel immoral.

House Trains His Protégé | House M.D..

(if you don't want to see the whole thing here's s timestamp for the more relevant portion)

That's just basic psychology more or less. These are just the thoughts you shouldn't say ouloud perhaps. You can often compare things because there's similarities, but the nature of the things being compared may make it offensive.

It's more like "training dogs has given me an understanding of basic psychology which came really handy in my relationships" than "I'm training my bf like a dog".

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