this post was submitted on 14 Apr 2025
23 points (84.8% liked)

Buy European

5389 readers
974 users here now

Overview:

The community to discuss buying European goods and services.


Matrix Chat


Rules:

  • Be kind to each other, and argue in good faith. No direct insults nor disrespectful and condescending comments.

  • Do not use this community to promote Nationalism/Euronationalism. This community is for discussing European products/services and news related to that. For other topics the following might be of interest:

  • Include a disclaimer at the bottom of the post if you're affiliated with the recommendation.

  • No russian suggestions.

Feddit.uk's instance rules apply:

  • No racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia or xenophobia
  • No incitement of violence or promotion of violent ideologies
  • No harassment, dogpiling or doxxing of other users
  • Do not share intentionally false or misleading information
  • Do not spam or abuse network features.
  • Alt accounts are permitted, but all accounts must list each other in their bios.

Benefits of Buying Local:

local investment, job creation, innovation, increased competition, more redundancy.

European Instances

Lemmy:

Matrix:


Related Communities:

Buy Local:

Continents:

European:

Buying and Selling:

Boycott:

Countries:

Companies:

Stop Publisher Kill Switch in Games Practice:


Banner credits: BYTEAlliance


founded 2 months ago
MODERATORS
 

Hello, is there any social media on this planet that does not ban people for things that are completely legal in all of the European legal systems?

Or is the fediverse the best choice because even though if moderators guide public opinion on the mainstream instances, people can still go to a smaller instance for refuge.

top 39 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old

You're probably better off on a mastodon instance rather than lemmy

[โ€“] tfm@europe.pub 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's the beauty of the Fediverse. You can host your own instance and do whatever you want. But be prepared to be defederated.

[โ€“] androidul@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

what if the defederated instances make a federation of their own? hmm

[โ€“] tfm@europe.pub 17 points 2 days ago

Nice architecture. Isn't it?

[โ€“] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago

Yes, that already happens afaik

[โ€“] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I'm looking for a place like r/capitalismvsocialism or r/purplepilldebate

Place where people communicate with eachother and nobody gets banned.

I'm quite sick of bubbles. Everyone just sticking with like minded people and removing the rest.

[โ€“] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

There's a reason they're called 'communities' on Lemmy. What you see as a bubble, other see as a place of refuge where they're not going to be attacked by people 'just asking questions'.

[โ€“] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There's a study somewhere that states humans were never meant to have communities above a few hundred, and the bigger we grew the more we lost. I for one am happy with leaving some folk sad they're not allowed back in when they break community rules.

[โ€“] Wimster@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well @Leraje, that's exactely what has happend to me. I asked a simple question in another community and get bashed by some people just like you would expect on some other social. Then I said: "I'm out of here" and I unsubscribed and blocked the community. Just to say that there are dipheads here too.

[โ€“] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

" I asked a simple question..."

Without knowing what community it was and what the exact question was, I'm not sure what you're expecting me to say about that.

[โ€“] Wimster@lemmy.wtf 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's OK. You don't have to say something about my post. I just wanted to inform you all that on Lemmy there are also haters, keyboard warriors or people that are so depressed that they can't see anything positive in a post, a question or a reply.

[โ€“] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Sounds like you're the problem, if everywhere you going you're getting flak.

[โ€“] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee -4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can't say that I share the sentiment of those people. I haven't blocked anyone in my entire life.

[โ€“] femtech@midwest.social 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[โ€“] Tundra@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

why does race, sexual orientation & gender have to be brought up?

[โ€“] gaael@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Because you are usually subjected to a lot less abuse when you're a ciswhitehetmale in a NW country.
This usually leads to a different need for safe spaces, like-minded communities and blocking people than oppressed groups.

[โ€“] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm a minority (autism), I don't need a safe space.

I need people to stop being authoritarian and communicate with eachother.

If only minorities were authoritarian, then there would be no issue. Since they'd be just a minority. It wouldn't be noticed.

It's clearly the majority that deal the blow. Logical, right?

[โ€“] gaael@lemm.ee 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm a minority (autism), I don't need a safe space.

Thank you for sharing your personnal experience. I am glad that your personnality and life experience don't make you feel the need for a safe space, that's uplifting.

This being said, other people from minorities seem to have a different viewpoint and consider safe spaces are important/necessary. The fact that some individuals don't need one doesn't negate the need (and right) of others individual to create these safe spaces.

I need people to stop being authoritarian and communicate with eachother.

That's great, but it's also within peoples' rights to choose who they want to communicate with and to filter that by interest, values or other factors.
I find it important that depending on my energy levels and my mental health I can choose who I engage with.

If only minorities were authoritarian, then there would be no issue. Since they'd be just a minority. It wouldn't be noticed.I.
t's clearly the majority that deal the blow. Logical, right?

I'm not sure I understand what you mean there, could you explain a bit more?

[โ€“] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago

The latter part. Minorities do not have power. They just do not have that. So their actions are barely noticed.

If only minorities were authoritarian and block communication channels, then nobody would notice it. It would be a rounding error.

This is because they are only a small amount of people.

Women aren't a minority, they are half the population. But according to many, they are a minority. This is wrong.

If women want a safe space from men (they do, female only subreddits ban more than male only subreddits) then that's fine, but it's not because they are a minority.

In this day and age everyone feels like a minority and likely are minorities. But that's only a part of them.

I'm autistic (minority). I'm male (equal), I'm European (majority on this app, minority in the world).

Okay now.. if I were to be a marxist leninist (minority in the western countries) so I create a safe space.

Okay but we have dozens of political ideologies. They all are pretty much a minority then. Definitely because they vary across countries.

Giving each ideology a safe space because they are "a minority" neutralises eachother. They all are.

In reality, just like the way a government gets formed. People need to communicate and compromise.

Blocking communication stops growth, and hence I do not like this culture of bubbles/echo chambers on Lemmy.

Got no clue how to alter that, or if there's social media that doesn't create echo chambers by blocking those that do not fit in there.

[โ€“] MrPoletki@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

It's the modern day equivelant of a/s/l

[โ€“] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

yep, my family has been living here in Belgium for a very long time.

[โ€“] tfm@europe.pub 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Why not start your own Lemmy instance? If people are interested into that, they'll join.

[โ€“] MemmingenFan923@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How complex is this? And how much does it cost per month to host your own instance?

[โ€“] slazer2au@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Not overly hard if you can work a Linux cli.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ansible

As for costs, will that depends on how many users, what hardware you run it on, and the yearly domain.

Several instances are on single circuit board PC's like Raspberry Pi with an attached USB HDD.

[โ€“] tfm@europe.pub 1 points 1 day ago

You should definitely be working in IT at least. Don't forget that you are responsible for personal data from your users.

Price-wise it's not that expensive to host a Lemmy instance. A few hundred users cost you 20 to 30 euros a month.

[โ€“] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Generally speaking, I've found Lemmy to be far less accepting of different viewpoints than either Twitter or Reddit in their heyday. The echo chamber is extremely strong here, even though the "correct" narrative is different.

[โ€“] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I vote left wing, but left wingers in general are less accepting of freedom of expression. That's my experience.

[โ€“] Tundra@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I feel the same, but right wingers also arent exactly very accepting either. Try talking about the climate crisis (which should be apolitical) or workers rights and you will see what I mean.

maybe its not a political issue, its just bigotry?

[โ€“] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee -2 points 1 day ago

They ramble on and on, but they don't want the other person to be banned. They just think the other person is really really stupid.

I prefer that instead of authoritarianism to be honest.

[โ€“] edvardgm@lemm.ee 0 points 2 days ago

Yee, banning people who have a reason to look the way they do, will make the world a worse place. Soon the right activities bubble will burst

[โ€“] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I think Discord is pretty lenient on everything. They're an US company though. Also Telegram, that's what all the conspiracy theorists use, I think they don't moderate a lot. That one is founded by Russians, and registered on the British Virgin islands.

I think they both technically fit your requirements, but I wouldn't recommend any of them. You can also use traditional internet forums or the Fediverse. They're all moderated by the people themselves. With varying rules on what you're allowed to post.

I mean if you just want to discuss politics, society and philosophy, without spreading hate and misinformation... You'd be welcome here, we do those kinds of things on Lemmy.

[โ€“] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Telegram disallows all sexual content, legal or not.

[โ€“] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Really? Are you sure this isn't just a restriction for people who download the app from the Apple store, or who live in islamic countries? The TOS they display to me specifically mention illegal pornographic content. But I've never used it, so I don't really know.

[โ€“] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago

I'm starting to think this guy is not trying to make a community about politics or legal porn.

[โ€“] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It might have started with Apple, but basically now they continuously take down public groups that contain sexual content, as soon as they find them. Of course I'm sure it's a losing game of wackamole...

[โ€“] MrPoletki@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[โ€“] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 13 hours ago