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    [–] Nefyedardu@kbin.social 50 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I just don't get the vendetta GNOME has against background processes. GNOME devs just don't use email clients, cloud sync applications, chat clients...? GNOME treats my Nextcloud sync app (which I NEED to be running at all times) as if it was malware or something.

    [–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Context for not-Gnome users? How does a desktop care about anything not desktop?

    [–] Nefyedardu@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    If you minimize a window, it goes into a list of "Background Apps" in the charms menu where the only option you have is to close it. There's no native systems tray.

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    [–] banazir@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Yeah, if you need to install extensions to make GNOME usable, GNOME is not for you. Seriously, there are other options. I can't stand using GNOME, but they have a vision they are sticking to and I can respect that.

    [–] mihnt@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Cinnamon is probably the best DE to give that old GNOME feel. At least in my opinion.

    [–] banazir@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

    Gnome also has their own GNOME Classic for people yearning for the old GNOME experience. Cinnamon is probably better though.

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    [–] gamey@feddit.rocks 5 points 2 years ago

    Or you just wait a little before you update or keep the extensions to small changes that are easier to update!

    [–] mojo@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

    Nah, dash-to-panel is really good and makes it 10x better for me personally.

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    [–] A10@kerala.party 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Exactly! Just integrate the bloody notification tray /running apps extension.

    [–] igorlogius@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
    [–] micka190@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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    [–] gamey@feddit.rocks 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    I get why that thing isn't implemented because it's really ugly and most of the icons there serve literally no purpose but they need a proper replacment because some apps simply need it!

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    [–] MossBear@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I love vanilla gnome. I totally understand how some users prefer the flexibility of KDE, but a clean, minimal interface with easy access to workspaces is just the thing for me.

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    [–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Setting up and adding things to linux until you break it is nature's way of teaching you linux. there's a bunch of other DEs you can try!

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    [–] Nonononoki@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Funny, GNOME 45 will break every extension without exception

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    [–] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    The reason I don't use Gnome is because it's only usable after you've installed a bunch of extensions yet after every update, half the extensions are always broken.

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    [–] Pfnic@feddit.ch 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I just can't get used to GNOME. I've been using "classic" DEs for too long, so every time I try GNOME I start customizing it and end up withh a worse version of KDE

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    [–] Barack_Embalmer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I like Gnome because it looks sexy and sleek, and comes default on my Ubuntu. I have a little experience with XFCE and LXDE on Proxmox and Raspberry Pis, and they're perfectly functional and great, so I don't want to besmirch them. But they give me a kinda uneasy sensation like I'm using a tamagotchi or something. I don't know if this is only because I'm using them on low-power potato computers or without proper display drivers, but they just look a little crude by comparison.

    [–] histic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

    gnome looks decent out the box the rest need work to look good but can look better imo

    [–] wolii1@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    I have used XFCE, KDE, and GNOME and in my opinion, Gnome provides by far the best the best workflow for me. The UI is very keyboard-driven, which makes navigation very fast and intuitive. Also it doesn’t look like an outdated Windows version (like Plasma or XFCE) and I had way fewer bugs with it than with any other desktop.

    I find it interesting how everyone always talks about the „Unix philosophy“ („software should do one thing and do it well“) but at the same time everyone likes Plasma for having hundreds of useless, buggy features.

    Gnome has a core featureset and a robust extension-system if you need more. There is no bloatware in Gnome. And please don’t tell me something like „Gnome isn’t usable without a taskbar/dock“. It is, lots of people use it that way, not every desktop needs to be like macOS or Windows.

    Of course it’s okay to like another desktop environment more, but I just don’t get why Gnome gets so much hate.

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    [–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 6 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    GNOME bad

    Plasma good

    XFCE better

    [–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I couldn't get used to plasma. I dunno why. I really like the gnome style applications window over a start menu.

    [–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Liking the fullscreen app search thingamafuck is your prerogative even if I feel this kind of UX is only at home on a mobile phone (also I'm fairly sure Plasma can also do that with some fennagling--)

    The thing people (me included) detest about GNOME has very little to do with that anyway, peeps don't like how locked down it is and how it refuses to support certain features thought to be 'basic', so you have to use extensions.... Which can be janky on occasion -- And definitely will get abandoned by their creators and disabled when you upgrade GNOME version.

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    [–] Afiefh@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I'm a plasma user and I would also prefer a fullscreen start menu. Ideally a fullscreen krunner with all its amazing bells and whistles.

    We each have to make the compromise that suits us best. I doubt most people think one desktop or another is perfect.

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    [–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

    Gnome has been rudderless since 3.x. I said it.

    Xfce has been my daily driver for a reason.

    [–] elouboub@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Gnome devs: you will take what we make and you'll like it!

    Also gnome devs: Apple did nothing wrong

    [–] Cralder@feddit.nu 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    What is the context for "Apple did nothing wrong"? When did they say that?

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    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Is there another desktop with nice macOS style animations other than gnome? I mean, for me, Gnome is clearly for people who would choose macOS if no linux was available to them (me included)

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    [–] ssboomman@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

    For me the only shell extension that matters is material-shell which gives me nice window tiling. When it works it works when there’s an update it breaks 90% of the time. I almost always have to do some hacky shit with js to get it working.

    [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

    Use KDE, it's stuffed with features to begin with

    [–] gamey@feddit.rocks 3 points 2 years ago

    Extensions are amazing if you need one or two small fwatures but if you mod something too much it will break eventually even if there is no update to the API. This time it's a easy fix again but it's also quite universal breakage sincee they switch from GJS to some more normal JS implementation and that changes some syntax but I expect developers to implement that quickly, maybe most of it could even be done with scripts I guess.

    [–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

    <3 some xfce.

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