I’ve also rolled out my big upgrade: Jellyfin
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Why does plex need all of this shit? I literally only wanted to use it to stream my local stuff. Now that's just a tiny part of the app.
I say now, but I don't think I've used it at all in the past couple of years.
Enshittening
It's simple, Plex is owned by capitalists, their goal is not to provide a service or a product, their goal is to make money. Jellyfin is currently the best as far as I know for doing the only thing anyone ever wanted Plex to do.
I hate this update
- no manual PiP which existed in the previous version. The auto PiP works sometimes
- multiple freezes, seemingly random
- phone gets way hotter and drains battery faster
- looks like yet another generic streaming app “experience”
If only Jellyfin onboarding was as easy for friends and family…
If only Jellyfin onboarding was as easy for friends and family…
What makes it harder is that you can't just expose it to the internet... https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/5415
In order to use Jellyfin you now have to get all your users onto a vpn or some other tunneling service. It's crazy.
I have both installed... I want to deprecate Plex SO FUKCING BAD. But Jellyfin just isn't good enough.
If the fact that a 128-bit value when sent to your server can retrieve a single piece of media or user info then I have real bad news about what you can do with a typically much shorter password.
Is it ideal that you can retrieve streams or user info from Jellyfin if you know the ID of the entity you're looking for? No, obviously not. But you need to authenticate to get those IDs in the first place, and there are fewer bits of entropy in most people's passwords than there are in UUIDs.
Being able to get streams unauthenticated by guessing the correct UUID is arguably still better security than using passwords without 2FA.
are in UUIDs.
It's not a UUID. Those tokens are MD5 hashes of values that can be pregenerated (rainbow tabled) or guessed. It's not random. https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/5415#issuecomment-2525076658
Edit: and UUID in the URL still means capture-able by google search and other issues/crawlers. But somehow security through obscurity is "secure" to you. Y'all are crazy.
My mistake then, it's more vulnerable then I initially thought. I also don't think it's secure even if that weren't true, just that it's not worse than single factor passwords (which you also shouldn't use of security is a concern).
Thanks for admitting it. A few people simultaneously responded attacking my warning. So rereading my response to you, I recognize I was a bit more snarky than was warranted, and I apologize for that.
But yeah, 2fa (Even simple TOTP) baked in would go a long way too on the user front too.
It's clear that Sony could just generate a rainbow table of hashes in MD5 with common naming conventions and folder conventions, make a list of 100k paths to check or what have you for their top 1000 movies... and then shodan(or similar tool) to finding JF instances, and then check the full table in a few hours... rinse repeat on the next server. While that alone shouldn't be enough to prove anything, the onus at that point becomes your problem as you now have to prove that you have a valid license for all the content that they matched, they've already got the evidence that you have the actual content on your server, and you having your instance public and linkable could be (I'm not a lawyer) sufficient to claim you're distributing. Like I can script this attack myself in a few hours (Would need a few days to generate a full rainbow table)... Put this in front of a legal team of one of the big companies? They'll champ at the bit to make it happen, just like they did for torrents... especially when there's no defense of printers being on the torrent network since it's directly on your server that exists on your IP/domain.
Wow, this can only be a disaster. People on the Plex experience preview forum are pissed. The android build hasn't been updated in a month, I didn't think it would be rolled out for another 3-6 months.
So many features are missing, the only way to remove Plex rentals/free is by going into your account settings, performance is shit even just scrolling your media.
I haven't looked at the beta client in a while and was wondering how they could've gotten it ready this fast. Guess I'll pin my app version real quick.
Damn it, I don't want to switch to Jellyfin
This update is so good that I switched my server to jellyfin. I didn't like it last time I used it, but it seems that they made a lot of improvements and now the app is kinda fire
Wonder how many things they shit up
I was surprised to find that an old Plex feature, controlling any one player from any other instance, such as playing on a laptop and controlling with a cell phone, no longer worked. My wife and I used that a lot when traveling, as plugging a laptop into a hotel TV with an HDMI cable is generally far more bullet proof than any streaming stick
Course sometimes we'd stay in an Airbnb, and they'd have a Roku or Apple TV, where we'd just sign into a Plex app and use it there. But that's beyond the point
I already switched to jellyfin after the last monthly cost for stream online.
How do people feel about Emby as an alternative?
The full feature is paid. Not saying that thats not fair, but jellyfin is completely free
I use it and enjoy it more than plex tbh. The ads are a little annoying but I’d rather an ad for an app I’m currently using and enjoying than anything else. As soon as they go the plex route though, which will happen, I’m switching to jellyfin
Maybe they’ll finally fix their bugs!