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In swing states, where the election was decided, voter turnout was roughly unchanged between 2020 and 2024 presidential elections. So you can stop blaming disenfranchised voters.

I would agree with you if showing up to vote was as simple as just showing up. I’d wager that the majority of people who could safely vote, did. There are many reasons why voters can’t be the sole scapegoat here.

One of the biggest reasons— Voting isn’t safe for everyone.

How would you feel about going to vote if you heard there’s been bomb threats and “private security” turning away people at your polling place? Mail-in ballot you say? Okay sure, but have you heard of poison postcards? What about all the data from after the election that shows how many ballots were unjustly thrown out or went uncounted due to some other form of voter suppression? I voted but have no way of realistically knowing if my vote was counted or altered.

I don’t think voters are the main reason the US is in its current position. Let’s set aside the blame game and look at the people who are truly responsible— the current administration and especially those who fund it. Let’s hold them responsible first.

I linked the website of a nonpartisan project that’s looking at the 2024 election data for fraud. They’ve got a hand re-count lawsuit in progress for Rockland County, NY right now.

We have to educate ourselves and each other since the current administration has made it clear that they’re opposed to education and critical thinking skills. There are many of us and together our voices and actions are loud enough to take this country back.

https://smartelections.us/2024-election-update

People probably did vote, they probably cheated

While I'm also frustrated by the apparent apathy among Americans, we've only been under this admin for two months. In Hungary, Serbia and Turkey the admins have been around for much longer than that and the realities and consequences of oppressive government have had time to fully sink in.

That said, I try to be optimistic but it's very difficult. Many sane Americans are behaving like an already defeated people, and the rest of the country either don't care or actually cheer for it.

And once this admin entrenches itself, it'll be extremely difficult to unroot. These are some of the richest and most powerful people in the world, with the world's most advanced military and massive and heavily armed police force to back them up. And that's not including all the nutjob private militias that will likely get deputized at some point. We're already seeing them label the opposition as terrorists, where do you think we'll be in a year?

I want to keep fighting but I'm not convinced enough of us take this as the very serious threat that it is. And not just to Americans, but to the whole world.

Those countries are much smaller and many have more robust public transportation to reach said protests.

I have a 12 hour day on the 5th and it kills me not to be able to go

We'd all be better off with more critical thinking and nuisance in our lives instead of jumping to the first conclusion that reaffirms our bias

Don't be a naysayer. Show up and apply peer pressure to others to stand up against fascism with you!

That's partly because the media is owned by the billionaires and has no interest in portraying the poor as having power over their destiny . Actually it may be entirely that.