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[–] HorseFD@lemmy.buzz 3 points 2 years ago

I think it will grow some more when apps stop working on July 1, especially lemmy.world.

After that, we’ll see how erratic and Musk-esque the reddit leadership becomes.

[–] herrwoland@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I don't know about you but I'm here to stay. Also, you need to define "die", since lemmy existed long before reddit drama and will be here after their downfall even if users leave it'll continue to exist.

[–] TheSpookiestUser@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It all depends on if Reddit continues to make decisions with disastrous optics. If this is the one and only user bump Lemmy will get off the back of Reddit, I can see it dying down in the future, but if there's more I think it'll take flight and eventually start snowballing on its own merits. I'm not sure if it'll ever be mainstream, but it'll persist - as it was before all this.

[–] sophia@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

I hope it lasts, maybe not with a huge number of users but I can live with that.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It won't die in "a few weeks", simply because the likelihood of everybody abandoning ship in such a short timeframe is pretty much zero.

It will almost certainly become irrelevant after some years (we just don't know how many) because almost nothing remains relevant on the Net for more than a decade or two, though even "irrelevant" things still attract a few people so they rarelly "die".

Edit: Also and as a side note, I've actually been questioning just how many people needs to be around here for it to be a good place to be in. I don't think the "millions" of people of Reddit actually added to it and suspect that a few tens of thousand of users are enough for the place to feel interesting to be in and participate in, except perhaps in very obscure and niche subjects were you do need millions of people around for there to be a handful that are interested in such subjects.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

When Reddit forces "new Reddit" is when the real migration will occur. Reddit is dying more and more every day.

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[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Aslong as I can shit post and talk about video game development I don't care where I am

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Give me a good Bethesda hot take, please.

[–] legion@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Fallout 4 was the final dagger in the heart of Bethesda's RPG credibility.

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[–] ellesper@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Lemmy has been around for quite a while, well before any of the recent issues. The userbase will probably die back once people get bored and go back to Reddit but some of us will still be here

[–] Doodoocaca@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I hope they're going to find a way to make the whole federation thing less messy, otherwise I don't think Lemmy is going to be as big as Reddit ever was.

Also they have to solve the front page, where new topics are loading in from the TOP pushing everything down. Really annoying.

[–] WrenofDelpan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I think its community has grown permanently. It just depends how much of who's here is part of that growth. When the dust settles, I bet people will go back to reddit or somewhere else. But when that time comes, who will be part of the remnants? 50% of us? More? Less? I have no idea.

I think an important step in pumping that percentage up is to stop asking about this. Every day seemingly dozens of people ask this same question about Lemmy's future. This might be pessimistic, but at this point I'm beginning to think many people are either expecting or hoping for Lemmy to fail.

[–] Schlomocucumber@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I would like to think this is my new home, but I still have a lot of learning to do about the fediverse. I won't be going back to Reddit and using their garbage app and site, but I also still need to learn how to maneuver this new land before it can be a true alternative for me

[–] pannacotta__@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe, but I think that the branding of the "fediverse" + difficulty of use will make it unlikely to surpass reddit or any other alternatives. It will almost certainly still be around for years to come, but I doubt it'll be much more than niche, despite me hoping for the contrary.

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[–] SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.net 2 points 2 years ago

It existed for years before reddit had its issue.

On the other side of the fediverse that's more like Twitter, Elon Musk pissed a bunch of people off and we've seen a few waves of new users. How it has worked is there's an inrush of people, some people go "Wait a minute, this isn't my old platform! I don't like it!" and go back, some people stick around.

Once people start to realize how friggin' cool the fediverse as a whole is, I think a bunch of people stay. Especially realizing that it takes all power away from corporate overlords and gives a lot of power to people who run their own instances.

[–] linuxFan@vlemmy.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's been going for 4 years now. I think the worst case scenario is it falls back to the numbers it had before this reddit incident.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago

We'll have to wait and see but I think this last issue with Reddit has given Lemmy enough of a boost that it will get the required amount of momentum.

It won't be long before a lot of the classic subs are reproduced over here and new users will be able to turn up and slot straight in and carry on doing what they were doing over there all pretty seamlessly.

It would be interesting to know what percentage of the most active posters made the jump as they are likely providing a much higher percentage of the content than the average user. It's those people that will really make a difference.

I also think having Fediverse alternatives to so much corporate social media and how well it cooperates with each other is also key. I am busy moving myself over to these services and I am liking what I see. It will always occupy a layer under the corporate one but that might be a good thing - like them act as the bullet magnet and let us just get in with things.

[–] jet@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Will definitely loose some users because of small things that come with using something like this. At the end of the day, people are attached and will go back to reddit. That doesn't mean though, that there won't still be a bunch of people using lemmy.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I'm here to stay, and Reddit was my only social media before. But was on that site so many years and it did get shitter over time. Lemmy isn't overrun yet, it's nice.

[–] nope@yiffit.net 2 points 2 years ago

Planning on deleting my reddit account as soon as I get my GDPR data collection request. I'll be there, and I hope others will too !

[–] aski3252@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Lemmy isn't going to "die" anytime soon, it has already been around for about 4 years now, it's not going anywhere..

Maybe activity will significantly slow down, maybe it will go back to being a super small community, but I don't see it completely getting killed anytime soon.

[–] stranger@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I'm interested to see the outcome of Reddit, since I've been there for almost a decade, but I'm kinda liking the change to lemmy and I definitely don't support Reddit's decisions or direction. I think I'm going to stay here and delete my Reddit account once I see the results of the 30th

[–] skyhy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I’ll certainly be staying. I like it here so far!

[–] Christos@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Itll last I just joined today and got 3 people to join. Gonna start ripping posts from reddit and slapping them to lemmy

[–] Vanthia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Seeing a post like this with over 100 comments makes me think that it's going to last, but scrolling down and seeing 25+ posts in a row with zero comments concerns me. It could be a federation/Jerboa/other issue though, I'm still not 100% on everything works and connects, plus I imagine the sudden rapid growth is hurting it for now but that should settle eventually

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[–] Anitabath097@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Lemmy is really the only solution because it is becoming as indepth as reddit is/was. What sucks is it will still be like a splinternet situation, having to spread all of our solutions across the internet.

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[–] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reddit is dead to me now. Terrible media players. Bulky unoptomized Javascript in browser. Slow load times. Just trash content now.

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[–] Botree@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Mass migrations are always uphill battles. I've seen too many similar cases that appeared to start strong but lacked the momentum to put down their roots. We'll have a much better chance if just a handful of the top r/ can convince their u/ to move here.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Mastodon is there. And there are enough people to interact with. Not as big as Twitter by any means, but for now it's big enough to use if you find a good Community.

Lemmy would be similar, for now won't even come close to reddit size. But if good communities move here those would stick around.

[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm confident that the Fediverse will last. Sure, there's a lot of challenges with having nodes that can choose to not federate with each other; However, a large majority should federate over time so there can be cross-collaboration. At its worst case, we'll have some segmented nodes that, while unfederated, will still foster good communities. Nodes will come and go.

While these large, centralized services for social media exist, people will always gravitate toward convenience. Unless catastrophe strikes, Reddit, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc. will always exist. But the fediverse gives us choice in a system where we generally had no choice but to use those platforms. After all, the alternative was old Forums that still had a solid userbase while other Forums collapsed and disappeared. If you provide a similar or better service to centralized services that is also convenient and user-friendly, then people will join the fediverse.

At the moment it is nascent, complex, and requires some confidence. Things that seem simple such as searching for another Community on another instance and joining it can be difficult for users to grasp. Over time this will get better.

Having grown up alongside the internet in its infancy, I've been very appreciative to experience the way in which it has changed over time. We're seeing another gradual shift, and a massive user base will associate with the fediverse. It's not going anywhere, but it certainly will never topple these massive corporations that have invested heavily into centralizing power, capturing the regulators and markets, and establishing themselves as information cartels that feast on the flow of money in the economy (read: parasitic leeches).

At the end of the day, I couldn't care less about these other social media platforms. I've embraced decentralization and am having a blast here with the fediverse. It reminds me of the earlier days of the internet. I'm excited to see where this evolves and also watch it grow.

[–] Ixoid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I'm here for the long haul. Reddit was simultaneously the best and worst of the internet, Fediverse seems to be prioritising the best. Now that the apps are starting to hit the public, there's no going back.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

My previous experience doing something similar was with Voat, Lemmy userbase is more mature(less bigotry and bullying), and the fact is not centralized on one guy that has other stuff to do, leads me to believe there is better chance this time.

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