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[–] crisisingot@beehaw.org 10 points 2 years ago

No way am I going to pre-order a game in this era of half baked releases and especially not a game from Bethesda which is as well known for their rampant bugs as their compelling gameplay

[–] GhostMagician@beehaw.org 10 points 2 years ago

I don't get the appeal of preordering a game months before it comes out when there isn't even a discount for doing so. At least Steam has 2 hour returns, but why money upfront so far away from release?

[–] Mars@beehaw.org 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fellas! Why are games today so buggy! Why are they incomplete? I just don’t understand!!!!‽‽???

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[–] Cian@fedia.io 10 points 2 years ago

Stuff like this is the reason game companies continue to release unfinished games, they're breaking even before they even release. Stop pre-ordering games people!

[–] Tammanytiger@beehaw.org 10 points 2 years ago

Oh come on people, can't even wait to the release date?

[–] EmergingDystopia@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This have looks fabulous to me, but there's no way I'm preordering. I don't have a lot of experience with Bethesda, but I thought the overall picture painted was a pretty gorgeous one. Hopefully they can deliver. That being said, I just started playing Fallout76 about two weeks ago, so I don't mind waiting until they work sone things out. Overall though, what they are promising looks incredible. Probably too good to be true :)

[–] suckaduck 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

SkillUp said it quite nicely; Never preorder, never ever preorder. And finally, never preorder.

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[–] Khorgor666@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

the first rule of the Biscuit: do not Proeorder

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[–] HorseFD@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

No idea why you'd pre-order this. The sensible route is to get a trial of Game Pass (or a free month doing Microsoft Rewards) and try it out. If you like it, either buy it or continue with your Game Pass subscription.

[–] Locrin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't really care that people throw away their money like this. Because I am now always looking forward to the always very entertaining youtube clips of how much off a disaster the lastet AAA videogame release is.

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[–] N00dle@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't really get the pre-order game market. Tired it once and turned out to be a complete disaster. The game was Batman Arkham Knight. That game should have been a crime to sell in that condition.

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[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

When will you learn!? That your actions have consequences!

Well that's disappointing. As excited as I am, I actually recall the distant events of this year....no preordering.

[–] TheTrueLinuxDev@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I don't know if they can reasonably judge the game within the 2 hours frame for refund. (Some game now do a very long shader compilation that can eat 30 minutes of your time.) The tutorial/beginning stage of the game are usually the most polished, but the latter part of the game could become very hollow.

They are going to get themselves cyberpunk'd.

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[–] steakfries@lemmy.one 8 points 2 years ago

pre-ordering is bad mmmkay

[–] Dag_Nabbitt@lemmy.fmhy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)

$70, I guess this is the world we live in now. Can't wait for the next price hike!

I guess I'll become a PatientGamer™

[–] PM_NUDES_4_DEGRADING@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Back when I was young, most games cost around $50. But back then they were 1/100th the size and complexity they are now, had absolutely no post-launch support whatsoever, and and even “AAA” titles used pixel art. They didn’t even have voice acting.

If I adjust for inflation alone, no other factors, a $50 game from back then would be $91 today.

I’m not happy about the price increase, but I certainly understand it and can’t really blame anyone for it. Frankly, I’m surprised this didn’t happen many years ago.

Personally, I’ve been a patient gamer for a while - welcome! It’s great here.

[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.fmhy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I've thought about this before, and you're definitely right that games are technically cheaper when you factor in inflation. However, they sell to a much larger audience now, so it's not like the major studios are starving. Even so, I would probably be fine with it, if it weren't for the tendency to:

  1. include microtransactions, rather than achievements
  2. sell dlc that should have just been part of the game
  3. Release the same uninspired crap every year (call of duty, sports ball 2023, etc.)
  4. sell broken games

I'm guessing this one will be #4. Hoping to be wrong.

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[–] MKBandit@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It's gonna be on gamepass there is 0 reason to preorder. People be tripping

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[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Preordering is bad. Preordering a Bethesda game is worse.

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[–] bilb@lem.monster 7 points 2 years ago

It's an extremely common take here that preordering a game is ridiculous! I agree. I wonder if that attitude can be correlated with whatever tendency it is to use tech like the fediverse.

[–] chainedtomax@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I really don’t understand the point of preordering a…. digital release…. The game will literally still be available whether one person buys it or one million…

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[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I found out payday 3 was announced from this post, so thanks I guess.

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[–] illumrial@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Pre-ordering is silly. Please stop.

[–] insanecrazy4@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I wish you all luck on your pre order

[–] RedMarsRepublic@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This game looked like trash from the announcement trailer, anyone lining up to pre-order a Bethesda game though, what can you do? Some people want to get their pockets picked.

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[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why would anyone pre order a digital game?

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[–] OddBob212@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 6 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I've been buying Bethesda RPGs without waiting for reviews since 2007. They've all had their rough spots but not a single one has disappointed me. Despite their issues I put hundreds of hours into each one and enjoyed them all. I see no reason to think this won't be the same, and have no problem betting $70 on it. I pre-ordered last night on Xbox.

[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Preordering has literally zero advantages.

Sometimes artificial ones like preload but thats negligible in our modern tech era.

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[–] borari@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Despite their issues I put hundreds of hours into each one and enjoyed them all. I see no reason to think this won’t be the same, and have no problem betting $70 on it.

Really the issue here is that there are very few reasons to hand a company your money before they are prepared to deliver you a product. There are even fewer reasons when the product is most likely going to be purchased and delivered digitally, since there is zero chance the product will be sold out. When a game is being developed by Microsoft-owned Bethesda, they don't need preorder money to finish the game.

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[–] Demigodrick@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 years ago

As hyped as I am - never preorder!

We're building a Starfield community over at !starfield@lemmy.zip if anyone wants to join.

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