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[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 79 points 6 months ago (1 children)

“We are pleased to have fulfilled demand for our earlier sales and be in a position to offer greater access to more people as the event nears,” Marian Goodell, CEO of Burning Man, said in a press release.

CEO of Burning Man

Lmfao.

[–] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 30 points 6 months ago

trump-anguish

Washed up psycho Marian Goodell has a problem... the Burning Man festival is no longer "hot"

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 57 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

There's something very funny to me about Burning Man purporting to be about people helping each other and everyone bringing something, which is why there shouldn't be any amenities maaan, bring your own water maaan, but the organizers still find it necessary to have infrastructure that forces you to have a ticket. I don't know what that infrastructure is, but it's got to be something, otherwise people wouldn't buy tickets. It's literally doing the "powerless help you, not hurt you!" bit.

Like it's just so fucking boomer-hippie faux-hallelujah "were all together, we're all a family" bullshit. Why do I need a ticket then? To pay for some paperwork? Sure, but why is it so expensive?
It's stereotypical or something I dunno. Ironic. Just a bunch of people forcing you to pay a bunch of money to be at a festival in the desert where the concept is we all bring something, which is why there's no basic infrastructure, except for the big burly guys making sure you paid to be here. Wouldn't want the poors present in our self-sufficient commune.
Like at this point it's just like every other festival, but the marketing hype makes people think they shouldn't have access to water.

Also

Marisa Lenhardt has led the Death Guild Thunderdome camp, one of the better-known desert camps specializing in concocting gothic (but friendly) cage fights.

This reads like a someone on twitter trying to make up what a bunch redditors would think would be cool to have at a music festival.

[–] anonochronomus@hexbear.net 33 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Allegedly, you don't need to buy a ticket if you skydive in. I wonder if that also covers paragliders the-boys-are-back-in-town

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 54 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The law, in its majestic equality, allows rich and poor alike to skydive into desert festivals for free

[–] anonochronomus@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I can imagine some logistics issues with this one. I don't think you can skydive with multiple days of food and water on you. Upside is you can bring all the drugs you want if you parachute past security, so you might not need food if you're eating paper and shards for three days straight.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just geared past the ears, grinding gravel with my rotating jaw whilst I fly into a massive burning strawman surrounded by billionaires and Chris Rock

[–] anonochronomus@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

Pilled to the gills!

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

This will be a sneaking mission. You must not be seen by the enemy. You must leave no trace of your presence. Is that clear? This kind of infiltration is the FOX unit's specialty. In other words, weapons and equipment are procure on-site... that goes for food as well. You'recompletely naked, just as your name implies.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean the thing is huge and presumably securing rights to the playa, paying for all the people to staff the thing, lay out the roads, do communications and stuff is expensive. But should only be a couple bucks or so.

I understand it has been ruined by techbros from SF that roll in with exclusive VIP trailers, Elon musk types basically. Maybe even musk himself actually. And with those guys came an increased willingness to pay and presumably elevated prices, and more exclusivity. So the same fate that happens to anything quirky and artistic. Capitalist shitheads ruin it for everyone.

I've never been but I wish I had gone when I was younger. Apparently 20 years ago it was pretty cool.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Among other things there's a post office, air field, presumably grants for artists, they probably have to pay the cops the be there (lol), and a bunch of other shit.

Idk if it was ever actually cool. I think there have always been, and still are, cool communities and groups within BM, but to my eye the big picture event has always been cringe.

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago

They build a temporary city to accomodate 70,000 people in one of the harshest, most inhospitible places on earth.

Also thunderdome fighting is so much fun. Idk about burning man but wasteland weekend has the whole set up from Mad Max so it's goofballs bouncing around on bungie cords whacking each other with foam bats while the crowd roars. It's good silly mostly harmless fun. If you don't know "Thunderdome" is a setpiece from the movie of the same name. The protagonist has to battle the deuteragonist to the death inside a large geodesic dome. Weapons of all kinds are strapped to the dome and the fighters are hooked in to bungie harnesses so they can "fly" around the arena. Meanwhile the crowd is climbing all over the dome shouting abuse and encouragement. It's a fun scene and larpers and related goofballs like to use it as a premise for boffer (safe foam weapons) fighting.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

Well luckily the only people who go to burning man are boomers and psychopathic millennials whose brain is 50% stocks, 20% NYT, 20% real estate, and 10% voting

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 51 points 6 months ago (4 children)

i don't see how anyone can look at the Burning Man Board of Directors and think that it is anything except another fucking corporate shakedown.

i mean, literally 10 years ago the criticisms of how elitist and infiltrated it was were so widespread that even i had heard them.

[–] OptimusSubprime@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

literally 10 years ago the criticisms of how elitist and infiltrated it was

10 years? Shit, those criticisms have around since about 2005, if not earlier.

There was a social media site called Tribe.net that was filled with mostly Burners since Tribe was hq'd in San Francisco. I remember looking in the Burning Man tribe of the site and seeing complaints of how "sold out" the event had become because techbros, going to the desert to drop acid and look at topless hippie chicks, had taken over their art event, and thus the organizers begun charging cash money, ridiculous prices for what used to be a free-ish event.

[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

Thank you for that link. It was very funny to read through ghoul bios

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

burning man
board of directors

pooh-wtf

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Same. Can't imagine it got better during the last decade plus

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 50 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Why would anyone pay to get Ebola?

[–] Tiocfaidhcaisarla@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago

Award-worthy bit

[–] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 49 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I sincerely cannot understand why anyone would find the idea of spending a week in the scorching desert sun listening to the Grateful Dead's grandchildren playing their music before sleeping in a tent with just enough water to not die of dehydration fun.

I can, however, imagine a person who would find that fun, and now I can't imagine how that person would pay $1500/person to go to that.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago

For the burners I know it's a profound experience of community, connection, love, and wonder. They're genuinely kind, sorta dumb hippies who really do pour their heart and soul in to the art they bring out to Black Rock. They get to see all their friends, take off all the masks society forces them to wear, be wild and free from the day to day drudgery of a society that hates them for being weird. They move heaven and earth, bum rides, beg borrow and steal to get out there.

It's incredibly sad. To them Burning Man is a kind of glimpse of paradise and most of them don't seem to recognize that they're the trained monkeys performing for the real audience of rich tech bros who inflict the very misery and poverty they're seeking to escape from. Or maybe they do know and don't care, seizing an opportunity for genuine community and belonging in spite of the crass larger picture of "the burn".

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I think the appeal is there's usually a ton of free drugs there. And casual sex if you're hot enough.

[–] Fern@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Also, interesting art, novelty-aplenty, and the ability to say you did it.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

“I went to Burning Man”

“Thanks for the info!” ✍️

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't think there are too many people hot enough to make the casual sex itself hot considering it'll be sweaty, dehydrated, hot, dusty, smelly desert drug festival sex in a tent. Burning Man sounds fucking awful.

I'd rather just meet someone in my area after we shower.

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

From videos I've seen of it, there does seem to be a pretty high concentration of very conventionally attractive people wearing rather skimpy outfits. I think the event attracts a lot of California who work in fields that attract a lot of good looking people (media mostly). Also from what I understand previous events were better organized and generally did had adequate water and other resources to keep people from dying if dehydration, it's just the event last year was a cluster fuck due to unexpected weather.

None of this is to defend Burning Man, it's an extremely bougie event for rich hippies, but if you were a cringe ass rich hippy yourself it probably is a lot of fun.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nah, not for me. None of it sounds good to me, even with casual sex. Plenty of beautiful, showered working class girls in cities to meet.

Stinky ass, dusty ass rich drugged hippies sounds fucking gross.

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

if you were a rich hippy

Honestly burning man just seems like a more pretentious version of a music festival.

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[–] roux@hexbear.net 36 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why hasn't Burning Man turned into a giant crypto grift by now anyway? Or has it?

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago

It always was, it was just waiting for crypto to be invented. There's a sheer cliff of class divide between the rich techbros who fly in to party and the poor working artists who bring all the cool shit. But it's always been a place for tech bros to go slumming with the freaks and geeks. Having spent time with burners i don't think it was ever "good". The " good" parts have always been people who find community despite the hyperindividualist neoliberal cultural void of burning man at a high level.

[–] emberpunk@lemmy.ml 30 points 6 months ago

Burning man is still a thing? Lol

I thought this was a thing that washed up rich folks spend their money on to buy 'cultural experience'. I'm surprised this is still a thing...actually maybe not.

[–] Elon_Musk@hexbear.net 29 points 6 months ago

The blame for this rests squarely on the shoulders of Rachel Jake.

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

As time goes on, artists I know have been going to Burning Man less and less. I'm not sure it was ever great, but it seems it's become a lot more "rich Californian" and less "independent artist"

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's been trending farther and farther in to the depths of shitty tech bro orgy for decades. Idk if it ever was actually cool. I know a bunch of burners who are actual weird poor artists, and they have to all pool their couch money, bum rides, save, and "volunteer" to afford to go. Meanwhile wealthy people just buy all the shit they need and when they're done "leaving no trace" they dump tens of tons of trash in nearby cities and towns in Nevada. It's all an ugly, gaudy sham of hyperindividualism, exploitation, bougie gentrification of art as a concept, and dickbaggery. My weird burner buddies love it to death and all i can see is the hollow commodification of art by capitalism as incredibly rich people create this massive altar to hipocrisy where they bring in tons of weirdos so they can pretend to have culture while they do drugs and wander around naked then fuck off back to San Francisco to leave the artists who make it possible to starve and suffer for another year.

[–] CarbonConscious@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I feel like all the magic has flowed down into the smaller regional burns at this point. Those are obviously hit or miss depending on your local scene, and you don't get quite the same huge community pieces as the big burn, but there's usually plenty enough to keep you busy just checking everything out for the whole event anyways, let alone a thousand times that if you really get involved with volunteering/organizing. Hell in a previous state I lived in, there were a few smaller local burns and then a bigger state-wide one, so even then you could kinda pick and choose how big and crazy of a thing you wanted to attend/do.

I need to start looking at local options around here...

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago

Guy who has a mud fetish buying a ticket only to be disappointed this year.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago
[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

incredibly unusual

you think so?

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

Didn’t they already do this like 3 months ago?

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