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[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Swiss German doesn't have orthography and üü can absolutely appear.

Edit: They meant Schriftsprache/Schriftdeutsch, which is almost German but without the ß.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

AfaIk, Schweizer Hochdeutsch is not Schwizerdütsch, but a variety of standard German, with the replacement ß->ss.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The language is a variety of German. But there are no real writing rules. Text you see written in Switzerland, e.g. on signage, is practically Hochdeutsch with the needed substitutions of words, like chicken for for example where they don't use the German word.

Written language between people however has no rules and people write as they speak and that's definitely not Hochdeutsch.

Edit: I just read your post again and maybe that's what you meant and I misunderstood you.

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[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Ah damn, you're probably right. Schriftdeutsch.

[–] Servais@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Where does the diagram mention grammar?

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Orthography. I thought it was a subset of grammar, but no.

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

The only source I found for the "kiillt saam" is this page. Was it meant to be Kildin Sámi?

[–] IAmNotACat@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

In primarily Irish speaking places you might find TH missing from the orthography entirely.

Similarly, I wonder if ä could show up in English. Such as in diäeresis.

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[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what the c with a line on it is but Estonian (või siis Eesti keel) doesnt have it.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Where do you see a 'c with a line on it'? Starting from the 'latin' branch, you end up with Estonian saying no to everything except ä and õ.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

First thing left from "start here"

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

That's a c with a hatschek or caron and Estonian is in the 'no' branch (red).

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Ah, it seems my eyes had a malfunction

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

I just use my innate knowledge of my fellow Europeans to identify the language well enough to point in the general direction which it came from, or maybe using cardinal directions like "south" or "east"

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Swedish doesn't have ø ffs

Edit: sorry my bad, its a "No" link, works as expected.

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