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in what ways do you think kbin should strive to be different from Reddit?

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[–] TheAngryBad@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Karma scores - on an account level at least. Up/down votes on a post or comment are fine and make sense, pushing bad replies down and the best, most thoughtful stuff to the top.

But a system where accounts can build up a karma/reputation score just leads to karma whoring comments just intended to gain upvotes and adding little to the conversation. Or worse, repost bots just reposting whatever was popular last week to gain karma. Reddit's been plagued with it for years and it just makes the whole place seem spammy and low quality.

[–] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Exactly. Comments and posts/threads should have up and down votes, but those should not accumulate on an account like Karma does.

It gets people used to the idea that the more points a person has, clearly the better quality their account must be, when in reality Karma could be easily accumulated by exploiting lurkers with cute animal photos or generic/milquetoast opinion pieces literally nobody could disagree with.

Edit: milquetoast not milktoast

[–] 1a@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Reddit Karma exists to get a score of 1000000, at which point the account is worth serious money on the black market. With a Karma of 1000000, all banned subs and moderated/deleted content is visible. It's the world's biggest CP operation operating in plain sight. Always has had that reputation, but nothing ever changed.

[–] MeccAnon@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This might be an unpopular opinion, but karma/reputation points. It only encourages hivemind and echo chambers. I'm ok with thread-specific points so that content can be ranked, but that's it.

[–] DreamySweet@exploding-heads.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree with this. Fake internet points ruin the internet.

[–] NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

But how will I feed my endless addiction to numbers?

[–] termagant@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, karma farming just encouraged reposting of popular posts. I can't stand seeing the same thing over and over again- across and in the same subs.

[–] Spiracle@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hope kbin never implements fuzzy votes or shadowbanning.

If you have a system of upvotes and downvotes, don’t falsify the numbers. If you ban users, don’t pretend they aren’t banned.

[–] lemonflavoured@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Agreed, Shadowbanning is ridiculous, and fudging numbers defeats the point of the numbers existing.

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

The purpose of the fuzzy voting was to make it harder to game with bots.

I have no idea how effective it was at achieving this but that's the reason.

[–] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I liked the idea is having awards or little extras that you can award to posts you're keen on, but what I didn't like was that Reddit profited from it

Something like that here might actually be useful as the money could act as donations for the devs to pay for their time / server fees. At least in that way people are getting something small but contributing.

[–] isiloron@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Well, there is this:
https://kbin.social/awards

Doesn't seem to be an active feature right now though.