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I myself am really on the fence about this.

I hate what Reddit has done, as I was removed as a moderator on my sub. But I much prefer the UI to Lemmy so far. I’m also having a hard time understanding how this all works. I was familiar with Reddit, and it is obviously a way more active community.

But I also used Apollo and hate how they’ve done him so dirty.

Will you guys return if Reddit rights it’s wrongs?

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[–] Octospider@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago

No. It's a pain in the butt to migrate from Reddit, but it's a blessing in disguise. The decentralized approach is much better and more future proof against bad actors. Having 1 site (or person) holdng all the cards is not something that should appeal to anyone.

[–] Lanusensei87@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Reddit will get increasingly worse the moment they go public, even if they backpeddal on all of the BS (and they did to some extent), I'm already envisioning several Twitter/Twitch/YouTube-like anti-user monetization features that will trickle down one by one over the years. The owners and admins have shown their true colors, there is no undoing that.

If it weren't for how rough (and personally, confusing) Lemmy is right now, I wouldn't even consider going back. But if the growth stalls, and communities remain super small, I might hop back, which is why I haven't deleted my content and account over there yet.

[–] Bjoern_Tantau@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

No.

There are two medical subs I care about and that have been reluctant to keep protesting or moving people over to Lemmy. For those I will probably compile Infinity with my own API key. But I will unsub from everything else.

[–] SHamblingSHapes@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

I'm done. I moderated a very small, niche hobby sub for a bit over three years. The size and niche-ness kept it fairly well insulated from the worst online behaviors, but it's been shifting this year. I have been seeing more and more users posting to the sub for the first time, simply pushing their content creator/influencer material on Insta and Youtube. Their posts are only vaguely related to the sub topic, and they never stick around to have meaningful conversations in the comments of their posts. When they violate the sub rules, I have a policy of warning once and removing only if they don't respond within 24 hours. But even with a 24 hour warning, people get NASTY.

I modded the community for the benefit of others. With the shift in sub demographics and reddit sweeping my legs out from under me in terms of mod tools that allow me to keep control of the sub, I'm done. I can't keep it shaped into the community the original members want. They're frustrated. I'm frustrated. It's no longer fun or fulfilling. Someone who wants to keep the sub aligned with the wants of the new content creator/influencer demographics are welcome to it. Personally, I think a sub of people advertising their channels elsewhere is worthless.

[–] princessofcute@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nope, the wells been poisoned. Even if they did a full 180 and Fired Spez for good measure, they've shown their hand. How long before they do it again? Even if all of this was %100 Spezs idea and everyone else in the company opposed it, could we really trust the replacement to never try this or anything similar again? How long before the next CEO decides to try again? What Reddit as a company has proven is that they can't be trusted, and what we as a community have proved with switching over to Kbin and Lemmy is that we don't need Reddit. We can make the same content and have the same or in some cases better communities and the beauty of doing it on a platform like this? A greedy corporation can't destroy it again. Even if a major instance owner goes rogue, we pick up move to another instance and keep going no need to learn a new site no need to rebuild communities. A simple "I'm moving over to this instance!" And that's it

[–] beto@lemmy.studio 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I deleted my 17 year old account. There's no going back, even if Reddit did backtrack it would be temporary. The enshitification has started and can't be stopped.

[–] Facelikeapotato@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago

Probably worth checking if it stayed deleted. A lot of people are saying their accounts, comments, posts etc got restored.

[–] keeb420@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

not at this point. spaz has been very stupid in how hes handled this. im not saying i wont go back but itll be a while and take a serious mea culpa.

[–] rollingFlint@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

No, I won't return.

This whole episode taught me the importance of diversifying the online communities/platforms that I use, and how NOT to rely on a single platform controlled by a for-profit entity.

From now on, it's communities based on open platforms first for me, and proprietary ones the distance second and only if I really can't avoid it.

[–] deaconblue@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

That's a negatory Ghost Rider.

[–] Nihilore@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I’ve already deleted my 12 year old account, so doubt it

[–] BigVault@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Friendship ended with Reddit users, now fedverse users are my new best friend(s).

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

I don't use Reddit on my computer, only browse it using RIF and my reddit usage will stop when the RIF stops working.

No

There's more to this than the direct changes to their platform:

  • not communicating with mods and users
  • being deadset about a really bad feature
  • doubling down on killing third party development
  • being a real dick about controversies
  • not valuing users for their content
  • not valuing volunteer moderators
  • going after a beloved developer specifically for no other reason than him going public with the situation

There's some things you can't rebuild, and a lot of redditors accept that Reddit is like an abusive spouse and it's time to see other people.

I haven't really left reddit yet but I would probably not leave if they backtracked.

That said, I would still use Lemmy too. Probably more than reddit.

Sure. In the same vein, I'll go back to twitter if elon musk somehow restored it to the way it was before before his purchase.

Neither scenario will happen, of course. But if we're talking about hypotheticals, I wouldn't have an issue returning.

[–] LostCause@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

No. The enshittification will progress regardless. Iβ€˜ve seen this often enough.

[–] lhx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

If I can’t use Apollo I’m done for anything other than when a Reddit post is a web-search result.

[–] hey_frankie@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago

Not me. For me it's half a matter of principle, but I'm also liking the fact that I don't waste as much time doomscrolling

[–] terribleplan@lemmy.nrd.li 1 points 2 years ago

Many of the communities deserve to be saved (and I will miss some if they don't end up with a fediverse equivalent), but the platform certainly doesn't. When someone demonstrates who they really are, you should believe them. I hope to watch it burn it to the ground, though doubt that will actually happen.

[–] 3melvi@feddit.it 1 points 2 years ago

No, they showed their hand and they will not change their attitude. They got caught in their lies and their malicious intentions. I do not mind them behaving like a business, I mind that they are becoming unethical in the way they are pursuing their goals, because they think we are passive enough that will accept such type of conduct without batting an eyelash.

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I'd probably go to my hobby subreddits and ignore /all

And then i'd also check the fediverse's site to see if they have anything different.

I'd imagine the content would grow more and more over time until either things went back to the way they were or reddit no longer had anything worth visiting for.

[–] minimar@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Nope! I've now realised all centralised platforms are doomed to enshittification. I'm here for the long haul.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What problems are you facing?

[–] Grant@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The low amount of comments and it kinda feels like everyone is standing around awkwardly waiting for someone to make the first move.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

In which case, you make the first move.

This is the internet lad, nobody is laughing behind your back on how awkward you look trying to say hello.

In terms of engagement, I agree. The userbase has basically resigned themselves to the fate that reddit will subject them too. I have switched to lurking Reddit subs instead of posting (I do/will do, but in a limited capacity).

This is the future, I'm OK with taking it slow.

[–] HighJudge@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No. This whole Fediverse feels like Reddit did in the beginning. Real conversations. Real sense of community. No pointless bloat or mindless repetition. I started actually participating because I'm not drowned out with a million ridiculous generic comments minutes after a post. Reddit will undoubtedly continue, but not with me as a part of it.

[–] mrbubblesort@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

This right here. For the past few years everyone on reddit just talks past each other in a race for karma. Rarely does anything with value break through the sea of memes and shitposts. If nothing else I'm enjoying the smaller scale here. I'm seeing and reading actual news articles again instead of the content pandering to the lowest common denominator

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