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[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (10 children)

as annoying as vegans are, they ultimately are ideologically right

about what?

[–] ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub 15 points 2 years ago (9 children)

The meat industry overall is bad for everyone, the amount of food it requires to feed the meat we eat is extremely wasteful. From an economic standpoint, meat is "bad", let alone the lobbying done by the meat industry.

Eating meat increases the chances of heart disease. Some protein is good, but we eat way too much. From a public health standpoint, meat is "bad"

In general, it's good to lessen harm. Factory slaughtering living things that grew up in what's effectively a prison is not lessening harm.

But, I do like the taste of meat unfortunately. Ill splurge on lab grown meat when it becomes available, but even though I'm a hypocrite for liking the taste of meat doesn't mean vegans are wrong because they're annoying to deal with

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

the amount of food it requires to feed the meat we eat is extremely wasteful

a lot of what we give livestock are parts of plants that people can't or won't eat. that's the opposite of wasteful.

[–] max 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Parts of plans that were specifically grown for livestock that we won’t eat, that is. At least a big part.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i'm talking about waste product from our crops, like cottonseed from the textile industry or soymeal leftover from making soybean oil or silage.

[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

And he's talking about crops specifically grown for livestock. Of which there is quite a lot. Hell, even pets that aren't considered live-stock outright, like Horses, consume tremendous amounts of feed that isn't just by-products.

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